Do British HWs get moved too fast?

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  1. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super Oneā„¢ banned

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    I would pick The Villain to dethrone Wilder and Martin was he facing them.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think there is really a correct way.

    I think it basically comes down to circumstances and opportunity.

    In my opinion, if Fury hadn't been stripped, Joshua would have continued to have been brought on at a steady pace. But because of what's happened, I think Eddie must have thought that the opportunity to fight Martin was too good to pass up.
     
  3. LordSouness

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    There's obviously a balance to strike though. If you box against too many bums and don't keep testing yourself, you pick up habits which are difficult to correct when you're 30 fights into your career. It's why Wlad - despite having the abilities in his locker to do so - could not change against Fury. It's why Wilder will lose his title.

    Conversely, it's why guys like Fury, Joshua and other top British HWs are cut-out for a long spell at the top of the division.
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats quite possible. It is a good opportunity for Joshua to face a champ who arguably in a few more fights hasnt fought as tough a comp, but what Martin would have gained is experience in rounds which is what I was wondering when starting the thread
     
  5. madballster

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    The British have tough hearts and minds and are ready to be tested at a young age. Many other countries have weak-minded fighters who prefer to fight tomato cans for 40 fights.
     
  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    When you can't beat Tony Thompson or Dominick Guinn or whoever that isn't getting moved too fast that just means you are not any good.
     
  7. Stevie-R

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    I feel like us as Brits over-hype all our fighters and push for them to be Champions when we see a slight glimpse of ability. AJ was only like 7 fights in when the media were pushing, asking questions like "When do you think you'll be ready for a title fight?" "Could you beat Wlad?". Once they get that loss, we jump onto someone new. If they do pace themselves and slowly come up, they're branded as bum fighters and not really tested.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    No, they don't get moved too fast.

    Every fighter the OP mentioned was a success story when they stepped up, to some extent.

    Even Chisora, who is the most limited of them and seemed to be rushing it by taking the Wlad voluntary (fight cancelled twice), progressed his career with the Helenius and Vitali fights.

    Joshua's fighting for the IBF title, but it's not too soon at all, because Martin is a novice too.

    Fury has proved himself beyond doubt with his last fight and his team's strategy has been thoroughly vindicated.
     
  9. Loudon

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    :good