Do Dives Happen and Why

You do realize this is boxing right? The most corrupt legalized legitimate sport of them all as it currently stands and the culture currently in place.

That renders the question obslete

 

Dives happen, just look at Wilder vs Scott, Haye vs Audley etc. It's when one good friend helps another make big money in no time flat.

 

Tyson vs Seldon

Wilder vs Scott

Ali vs Liston II

it happens...

Spinks going down like a Tomato
Can Bum is suspicious also...
lots of Tyson fights look like they
were set-ups...

:dead

 

Danny Green v.s Paul Briggs most shameful dive I've ever seen.......

 

Mike Tyson only held the Heavyweight
Championship 3 years before getting KTFO
by Buster Douglas and was never the same!!

maybe Douglas was the first to not
accept the "Take a Dive Bonus $$$"???

:hey

 

Right, if you ver seen Green vs Briggs, how could you even ask this question?

It happens, and very probably it isn't always poor acting like the obvious ones.
There's a lot money involved, and certainly when there's an old and/or pretty much undeserving challenger there's always a big possibility.
And then don't even think about betting odds that can render people financially independent. It happens

 

Corruption dude....... Lot's of boxers don't live clean lives, are involved with shady figures in an out of the thing. Gambling, pushing a hyped fighter. All established as reasons why matchfixing occurs. It's happened in the past. Jake Lamotta testified to congress that he threw some of his fights at the behest of the mob.

 

:good:deal

Well said..... Sure there's been fights that we would have never thought were thrown that actually were fixes. Who's to say someone wouldn't allow themselves to actually be knocked out if they were offered enough money? Not saying it's happened, but wouldn't shock me if it did.

 

Bro.. i'm guessing your young? Are you in college?

This idealistic cupcake view of how the world works doesn't apply in boxing. People need to get paid to take care of thier family and get the things the want to get ahead in life is not inline with the noble view full of integrity. People aren't born rich or with the things they want, i'm not saying that you do or come from a middle or wealthy class family, but I would guess you do.

Most of these guys come from nothing. There are bigger concerns then being a champ for corrupt belts and fairweather fans whos #1 hobby is posting stuff about fighters and the game that they dont even have the courage to partake in on internet messageboards. None of them give a two ishts about the fighter or where he comes from.

Now when we are lucky and privledged to get a guy who comes in with good morals, integrity who values his career success, of course its to be appreciated.

Yes there are good guys who do it for the right reasons and want to be the best. Then there are guys that just use thier talents to get paid thats it, no ambition. Look at Peter Quillins post fight interview. In fact i would say these are most boxers.. get with it.

 

Look at the career of Ritchie Melito. Retired 27-1, only lose coming to Bert Cooper.

Melito's manager was arrested and sentenced to probation for staging dives for his fighter. Rumors were that Bert Cooper was offered over a million dollars to lose to Melito. The NYSAC stepped in and informed Cooper they were watching him carefully. He scored a 1st round KO over Melito.


But to address your question, yes a lot of fighters take dives, if someone offered you an ungodly amount of money not to take more punishment, would you turn it down...???

 

It definitely used to a lot happen more, but it definitely still occurs.