Do fans think Frazier was helped being a few pounds lighter than Ali in their first clash?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do fans think Frazier benefitted from being a few pounds lighter than Ali in their first bout? If they had weighed exactly the same in that bout would the result have been different?
     
  2. Arminius1

    Arminius1 Member Full Member

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    I don't know. Ali has said the Joe Frazier punches very hard. I am not sure a few pounds would matter. Joe was very determined that night after being verbally abused by Ali.
     
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  3. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You really dont have any concept of boxing do you MarkAntSaad54? Just bigger is always better!
     
  4. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I give you credit though; yr McQueen pic when you post as Mark is a lot better than that hipster doufus psycho looking photo you try to pull off as Saad54. Did you get that pic from the house of freaks? Looks like it was run over by a road grater and put back together.
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    No.
    A fighter needs to be at the best weight for them. Whatever that weight may be.
    Quickness is the most important thing in sports. You can use it to keep your opponent off balance.
    Frazier's hook was very quick like a whip in his prime.
     
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  6. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frazier benefited from the fact that Ali had just 18rds of boxing under his belt in the previous 4 years.Once the ring rust was gone and the legs, reflexes, and stamina returned it was a different story.
     
  7. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He must be a big (get it BWA!) fan of Bowe, Lewis, Carnera...Golota (lol).
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is the truth of the matter . It' was the lay off that counted against Ali , nothing to do with weight .
    Even an Active Muhammad would have probably lost to a rampaging Frazier that night but the years out counted against him .
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I did read once that Ali tucked to the right in the first fight and Frazier of course to the left. I wonder what effect that had on proceedings as well.
     
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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, I feel the extra weight slowed Ali down.
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali and Frazier would have beaten all four of those fighters, but I do think size can be a factor.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Better watch it there`s a new member on this forum reporting any abuse, guys are getting booted left right and center now.
     
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  13. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whats the fun in that. Thx. Have a good day.
     
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