Do fighters ever take a fight they think they will lose?

There's fights you know you will win because you will give it your all using Skill and Will, convincing yourself you can win because you want it MORE...

... and there's fights you know you have hardly any chance of losing, "cherry picks".

 

Despite the rhetoric, I think this was the case with Pacquiao. He and his camp made every effort to convince the public their man was primed and ready to win but I think the reality was they knew there was very little probability they would win. But the payday made it all worthwhile. The fake chest pumping by Pac after the fight, saying he won the fight was all about setting up a rematch.

 

on twitter, i asked Willie Monroe if he thought he could beat Golovkin then why not comply with wbc rules and become their mandatory to Cotto. no answer, and he blocked me.

i asked Martin 'Low-Blow' Murray how he expected to beat Triple G when a much older Khomitsky gave him hell twice but a close to prime version was dominated by and quit vs Golovkin. no answer, and he blocked me.

 

I read an excellent piece on journeymen who make a career out of it


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/11067736/Journeymen-the-boxers-who-choose-to-lose.html

The role of the journeyman fighter is widely misunderstood. These men lose for a living – but on the inside of the circuit, they're figures of respect, not shame. For journeymen, losing is an art – and a lucrative one at that.

Boxing as frequently as once a week, for around a grand a time, journeymen earn their money by being used as opponents, often at very short notice, for young prospects. In other words, they fight the lads who sell tickets, the future stars of boxing who are earmarked for title bouts and glory. Those who back these young prospects want returns on their investment, which will only come with belts and television fights. To get there, according to West London manager Mickey Helliet, who handles a stable of more than eighty fighters, you need “a solid, unbeaten record.” Opponents are therefore required to provide a particular service. Essentially, a journeyman who wants to get rebooked regularly needs to make a decent fight of it, put up some kind of show for the crowd – and lose.

 

Probably all of Pacquiao, Mayweather, Golovkin, Klitschko, Kovalev, Rigondeaux, and Gonzalez opponents think they are going to lose but hope they have some slim chance of an upset and go through with it because the money is right.

 

I know most will disagree but they are part of the problem with British boxing. A fighter should ALWAYS come to win even if they aren't capable of it. A journey is essentially PUNISHED for trying to win.

The best journeymen are guys like Marjohn Yap who come to win and they really find out if the prospect is decent or not. Sherman Williams is another.

 

Pac won more rounds on May 2. But its true, he probably knew he would lose unless he gets a KO. Thats how Vegas works for Floyd. There is no outpointing him in there regardless of how the fight goes.

 

:thumbsup

Wise words my friend.

 

Do you also send GGG your soiled panties in the mail?

 

I think most would agree that GGG is a tougher fight for Monroe than Cotto. So I guess you calling him out over taking the tougher fight so close to fight time probably got him ****ed. As for Murray he probably wondered how well would you have done against Khomistki or GGG. Btw didn't Murray put up a much better show than most against GGG? Simple answer if you want to troll fighters dont be surprised if they block you.

 

The trouble with the guys that come to win and pose too much of a threat often find themselves out of work

 

Fanboys gonna fanboy...

 

And therein lies the problem with the hole system!

If a guy poses a threat in Japan a promoter takes a risk and uses him on the under-card (Yap being a great example), if they do it in the UK they get ignored. Total bull**** system and it serves no purpose for the fans "oh look Dave is beating up on some guy who's much smaller and not throwing punches back"