Do Heavyweights punch harder today...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Seamus, Jan 4, 2010.


  1. dezbeast

    dezbeast Active Member Full Member

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    You know I suspected that as a possible reason. Thanks for pointing that out.
     
  2. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good:good yeah,where:lol:
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    The 00s havent been a great generation but still has its share of seriously big hitters. Not all the bigger men are big punchers. But Wlad, Tua, Briggs, Rahman, Haye, Brewster, Maskaev are very big punchers aided by their size and resistannce training. Virchis and Danny Williams while not being top class hit like sledge hammers. Despite it being a weak era not many eras have a collection of hitters like that

    The 90s HWs have the biggest collection of big punchers of any decade, with Lewis, Tyson, Bruno, Rudduck, Tua, McCall, Bowe, Morrison, Hide, Maskaev, Briggs. Size is certainly a reason for that generation being the biggest hitters
     
  4. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Yes, some actual testing on the subject has concluded that bigger modern boxing gloves actually produce more concussive blows.
     
  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You've watched any MMA? The punches have much more effect than in boxing even though they don't hit as hard as boxers. One clean punch and it's usually nighty nigth.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I don't watch a lot of MMA but I'd say this is primarily because the puncher is allowed to land on top of his victim and punch him repeatedly in the face. There is nowhere for the wounded man to hide.

    A knee is out, obviously.

    There is no referee's count.

    Clinching is extremely dangerous.
     
  7. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    MMA in Germany is about to non-existent. There were shows on TV for a while but they got cancelled due to the few people watching it as far as I know.

    MMA is not comparable to boxing though. Different sport, different rules. Let two MMA fighters fight under boxing rules with their gloves. Than it would be comparable.
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    ...this is a new emotion....the desire to move to Germany...
     
  9. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, other than our fellow Europeans on the islands and the Americans, we Germans are civilized. We prefer the high art of fist-fencing over this primitive, brutal "sport" that is MMA :lol:
     
  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm only talking about the aspect of punches landed on the chin. It's obvious that they have more impact with those small gloves. Due to poorer technique they don't get the same leverage a pro bzoer would, but even so one clean punch often means lights out.

    This is what happens when a pro boxer lands a clean punch: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fme4CDQC26w[/ame]
     
  11. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Awesome never saw that fight with Mercer
     
  12. mr. magoo

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    Power really comes from technique more so than mere size and strength... A guy who plants his feet into the ground and throws his body weight into a punch is going to hit several times harder than a man who throws a shot without any grounding. Sure, size has something to do with it, as a boxing heavyweight like Muhammad Ali hits harder than a much smaller Manny Pac.. But if we take two guys who are at least within the same ball park of size, the one who has a puncher's technique is going to hit harder, even if his opponent has a size advantage ( within reason. )
     
  13. MattMattMatt

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    Have you been hit with a small glove and big glove to compare? I have, and it definitely seemed that the smaller glove did
    more damage (same person using the two types). Gloves were more likely introduced in boxing to protext the fighters hands rather than the fighters heads. Big punchers in boxing almost always try and negotiate the smallest gloves they can. This is either due to more effective power and/or increased ability to land..
     
  14. MattMattMatt

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    I remember hearing that, but having been hit by both I think it's bull****. Or at the very least it is much easier to land with a smaller glove (smaller defence to attack and smaller glove to hit through holes) so KOs would be much more common.
     
  15. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yeah I agree. The Reyes gloves are called punchers gloves for a reason. They have less padding in the striking areas.
    That being said, its not always true that big punchers go for the smaller gloves, as some fighters like the bigger more padded gloves such as everlast and Grant for blocking purposes.