Do Jerry Quarry and Ron Lyle become modern day champions

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Say that Jerry Quarry unifies the cruiser weight division (yeah I know it's far fetched but bare with me) and decided to move up to the heavies, could he become champ? And likewise for Lyle, could he become the top man in the division today?
     
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    KasimirKid Member Full Member

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  3. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd say no ,but they would have success in the 30's and 50's.
     
  4. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Active Member Full Member

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    Not likely, maybe one of the belts like Wilder does, but definitely not the champion. I don't see any of them becoming clearly the best fighters in the world in any era post Sullivan to be honest.
     
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  5. louis54

    louis54 Active Member Full Member

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    Qarry would soundly defeat the current amatuers.
     
  6. joebeadg

    joebeadg Active Member Full Member

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    yes especially Lyle
     
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  7. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think both beat Corbett, Hart,Burns ,Willard,Carnera, Leon Spinks, Ingo, maybe Sharkey.
     
  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think they would beat Corbett, Willard, Sharkey or Ingo but that wasn't my point. They would never be the best fighters in the world, in any era. That was what I wanted to say.

    During Corbett career two fighters were the best - Fitzsimmons and Jeffries.
    During Hart career two fighters were the best - Jeffries and Johnson.
    During Burns - Johnson.
    During Carnera and Sharkey - Tunney, Schmeling and Louis
    During Ingo - Liston.
    During Spinks - Holmes.

    Only Willard could be argued as the best but even then I'd take Langford, Wills and later Dempsey over him.
     
  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

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    Yes ..IMO
     
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  10. red cobra

    red cobra Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Wilder, Joshua and Ruiz can do it, so would Quarry and Lyle. This era pales badly compared to the 70's.
     
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  11. louis54

    louis54 Active Member Full Member

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    No doubt
     
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  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh gosh yeah, geez people Ruiz , is a heavyweight champ! I'd pick Quarry and Lyle over him any day.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And I was joking about it being far fetched about Quarry unifying the cruiser weight division.
     
  14. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed!
     
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  15. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's more 200 pound and up guys that can fight professionally today than there were in the 70's.

    Globalization and fighter size growth led to enough of an increase in the supply of fighting big men to fill two divisions, hence the creation of Cruiserweight. That wasn't the case in what was essentially a domestic scene only in the 70's.
     


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