Do journeyman boxers lose on purpose?

Many of them are paid to lose.

 

Just take a look at their records and you know..

 

They lose because they're not good enough....thats why they're journeymen in the first place.

They do however provide a great service in boxing for young boxers.

Some of these guys you see in town halls in England are great at surviving the 4 rounds. By not getting stopped, they can fight again the next weekend.

 

The opposite. They over perform in fights they are supposed to lose.

 

No they don't get paid to lose, they get paid to give prospects experience. they're just put in mismatches which they have next to no chance of winning, they know they've not got much chance but it's not a case of 'coming to lose'. Any journeyman who came in, didn't throw punches and then went down at the first grazing shot would not be getting much work.

 

James Smith was a journeyman untill he ko,d Bruno...

 

There was a guy who went in with Rahamn who kept throwing himself on the floor after one decent punch - so either he just wanted out or he was taking a dive. But usually they are just tuff guys who have varying degrees of ability who get in the ring and go rounds - and there have been some very useful journeymen over the years

 

This. They deserve a lot of respect imo and if u went to a gym you would be surprised how good they are

 

Very interesting read I remember from a while ago from http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/11067736/Journeymen-the-boxers-who-choose-to-lose.html if anyone's interested, I'll post an excerpt

'The role of the journeyman fighter is widely misunderstood. These men lose for a living – but on the inside of the circuit, they're figures of respect, not shame. For journeymen, losing is an art – and a lucrative one at that.

Boxing as frequently as once a week, for around a grand a time, journeymen earn their money by being used as opponents, often at very short notice, for young prospects. In other words, they fight the lads who sell tickets, the future stars of boxing who are earmarked for title bouts and glory. Those who back these young prospects want returns on their investment, which will only come with belts and television fights. To get there, according to West London manager Mickey Helliet, who handles a stable of more than eighty fighters, you need “a solid, unbeaten record.” Opponents are therefore required to provide a particular service. Essentially, a journeyman who wants to get rebooked regularly needs to make a decent fight of it, put up some kind of show for the crowd – and lose.'

:good

 

I don't believe all of them push for the win as hard as they could,

 

i think a lotta them just don't care if they lose....sometimes it's easier to lose than it is to put in the mental and physical effort to win. it's about motivation to succeed...a lotta them just don't have the discipline to stick to strategy and a long term training regimen that will help them be successful.

 

:deal Some do go down with the first punch they take, some just try to survive and go the distance, not fight back. But there are a lot of them who come to fight, anytime, anywhere.

 

pretty much this really..