Do Marquez and Cotto get a Pass for trying to Weight drain opponents?

I think when you are genuinely coming up a couple divisions, like Marquez was against Floyd, a catchweight is fine.

Or when you are trying to do anything to inconvenience and **** with the opponent who bricked you up when you last fought, it's also fine.

However you have to take into account Pacquiao was already a welterweight when he fought Cotto, he had already faced De La Hoya at 147, had Hatton at 140 inbetween then when he was due to face Cotto (a 147 fighter), he fought him at a 145 catchweight (because that was the lowest Cotto would go) in order to make him train to lose weight, rather than train on a gameplan

He gets stick for it because he/his team do it in order to gain an advantage and take something away from a fighter, and not fighting someone on even terms is IMO unfair and attempting to do so makes the person who asks for it look frankly, scared.

If you fight at a catchweight because it's genuinely the best solution for two fighters of a different weight to meet, then fair enough, but if you do it, to quote Freddie Roach 'take something from' a fighter, then you will get deserved **** for it.

 

cotto defo gets a pass after what margocheato did to him.

Also marquez just learning off the catchweoght king himself:rofl

 

bladebummer :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

wat

 

It has nothing to do with what Floyd said, as far as I know, Floyd only said that leading up to his fight with Cotto, whereas Pacquiao has been given **** for catchweights for ages.

Pacquiaos catchweighting became an issue when he used them consistently in his fights.

It does not matter if you are a small welter, Cotto is a welterweight too. Fight within the 141-147 limit, you don't HAVE to weigh in at 147. So long as you weigh in OVER 140 you are a welterweight. He should act like a man and fight other people within the 141-147 limit.

Secondly, had he done this once, it again, probably would not be an issue, but he fought Cotto at 145 instead of 147 (for the WW belt), fought Margarito at 150 instead of 154 (for the JMW belt) he just tried to negotiate to fight Cotto at 148 when Cotto is at 154 (I presume again for the JMW belt)

That's too many instances of not trying to fight fighters at
1. Their natural weight.
2. The official weights stipulated by the boxing commissions and rules. If you are fighting for the WW belt, fight at the full welter limit, same with JMW. Otherwise it's bogus and you'll rightly get **** for it.

And what makes this all worse is that AFTER alllll of this talk that Pac is really a 140lber, and that he struggles to make 147, and this is a valid excuse for all the catchweights, he and Marquez don't fight at 140 :blood they fight at 144, and that was because Marquez had previously looked like **** when he moved up to that weight

Team Pacquiao in 5 different instances uses catchweights to their advantage to fight for legitimate belts at illegitimate weights

Shane Mosely - Tried to get him down to 142, he refused, they claimed he was 'too big', then were happy to fight him at 147 when he looked done
Miguel Cotto - Tried to get him down to 142, he refused, , they fought at 145 for the 147 belt
Margarito - Fought him at 150 for the 154 belt
Cotto II - asking him for the fight at 148
Marquez - Fighting him above 140 when they apparently have a problem making that weight

Find me another fighter who has done it to that extent, they clearly have a problem fighting dangerous fighters at their optimum weights, it's undeniable

 

wot

 

Bro...really? :-(

Cotto fought Margarito at a 53 ONE pound below the 54 limit. In a NON-CHAMPIONSHIP fight.

Also, after all the controversy surounding the first fight....fugg, Cementito had that coming!

I agree with the bold.

IMHO, on championship fights there should be no CW. If you are the challenger you must fight the champ up-to the MAX limit of the division.

On a non-championship fight, let the boxers negociate and if the circustances are right...then let them fugging fight!

The Pac as the contender vs Cotto should had allowed the fight up to the limit. If they have stipulations in regards to weight, its NOT a legitimate fight therefore should not be a title fight.

:bart

:deal

 

BS! :verysad

Cementito was the Champion at 54, if Pac wanted his belt, he need it to fight him at his max if Cementito wanted to come up to the max. NO CW BS for the title holder.

If you want his belt you MUST come and get it.

 

It tell me that Cotto gave up a (1) pound to Cementito! He came in at 53 when he (as the Champ) should have been at 54 knumknuts.

So, Cementito had yet, another advantage! :deal Yet, Cotto stumped on his head and **** all over his face! :deal Retiriing the cheater! :deal

 

wit