Do past fighters get overrated because of nostalgia.

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  1. davidjay

    davidjay Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The best music, the best TV, the best sportsmen. They were all when we were growing up.
     
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  2. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Not nearly as much as current fighters being overrated due to recency bias
     
  3. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    unlimited rounds
    3hr rounds
    i disagree
    tom spring would have laughed at 12 3 minute round fights
    ta ta for now
     
  4. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, (to some degree)
     
  5. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There are plenty of fighters who can do 15 rounds. And if 15 rounders were a thing still boxers would be training for 15 rounds and there would be a lot more than could do 15.
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    There are a lot of things to admire about old-school fighters and how tough not just the fighters were both mentally and physically back then but how tough men were in general. But even though non-British men of today are soft in comparison to them the answer is still yes.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  8. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Old fights with over 15 rounds were atrocious. The fighters fought at a terribly slow pace. Shorter fights have fewer lulls and more action.
     
  9. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't think Usyk could go 15 rounds? How about Pac?... in several of his fights he kept going at a torrid pace for 12 rounds, so I don't think he would have much trouble with an extra 3. Likewise with Calzaghe, who could go all night.

    If we reverted back to the 15 rounds title fight distance, boxers would obviously adapt and pace themselves accordingly.
     
  10. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To an extent of course but this argument goes both ways. in the same way some will think today's fighters are infinately better because they're bigger and have better "nutrition". When really we have to look at the indiividual in question and see if they're applying everything that is availible.
    In other words the fact something is there does not mean it's applied. and something like diet is an excellent example of this.
    I think we also have to acknowlefge the changes in the sport over the decades from one or two belts to four. the switch over to more weight divisions. the same day weigh ins. 15 rounds. fighters who fought far more regularly and would actually fight each other.
    I think for younger people or new fans to the sport will struggle to understand true context because they only have today as a frame of reference. The sport has changed massively just in my lifetime. So when weighing up we have to take so many different things into account.
    There isn't a simple answer when comparing but if you take someone like Pacman the fact he was a warrior who took on all in his era then I can say he would do well in any era. I can't say the same against a modern fighter who hasn't fought anyone elite. It's as simple as that. If someones tested and has many elite fights then you can weigh it up. if they haven't then you can't.
     
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  11. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah but the people you've pointed out are true exceptions they don't represent the norm by any stretch.
    Look at Heavyweight. most of todays fighters couldn't do 12 rounds at pace nevermind 15. some of these dudes can literally do 4 rounds and they've blown there load.
     
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  12. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    yet they struggle to do 12 which they train for with all the new mordern tech nutritionists
    s c
    etc etc
    give over just stop it
     
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  13. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you seriously think, that old-timers (generally speaking) were more suited to go 15 rounds - and that today's boxers (generally speaking) wouldn't be able to do that, if it was required of them?
     
  14. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Exactly. There is certainly "nostalgia bias" that causes people to overrated past fighters, but there is also most certainly "presentism bias" that causes others to overrate modern fighters.
     
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  15. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes many fighters struggle to do 12. plenty of fighters in that era struggled with 15. That doesn't change that fact that there are PLENTY of fighters today that can clearly go 15.
     
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