Do people here honestly think that defense wins you points in boxing?

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  1. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Still no comment from Mayweather Junior, self proclaimed TBE on who won the fight. There is SILENCE from him, which is telling. At least Mayweather Jr was honest about the first Kovalev and Ward fight, Kovalev obviously won.:D
     
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  2. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Triggered.
     
  3. TinFoilHat

    TinFoilHat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is because Mayweather had no stake in Kovalev - Ward. He can be honest with that.

    But Mayweather is REALLY hoping that Canelo goes on to do well with his career. It will make Mayweather look better down the road with his easy win over him. That's why he doesn't want to say anything.

    Oh the other pro boxers who thought Canelo won were Oscar and BHOP, both of which have a lot of money riding on Canelo.
     
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  4. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nah bruh. You quit the sport remember. Usyk boxes circles around Holyfield now you want to flip and act like Holyfield is your man's and them. Stick to llamas. Boxing is too hard a concept for you.
     
  5. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Holyfield may be a steroid freak American, but he still KSAB.

    Triggered.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holyfield had Pacquiao beating Mayweather.
     
  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Sounds like you want to penalize swarmers and reward ***** low output pot shotters.
     
  8. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    And he utterly destroys Usyk. Usyk wouldn't stand toe to toe with him and you wouldn't call what Usyk did running. Go to bed son.
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    It's one of the four criteria in judging a boxing match under the MOQ rules, so, well, yeah. You're an idiot if you don't.
     
  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    well if you wanna get abstract, then the cornermen are racking up the defensive abstract points by not getting hit, as they are part of a team for either the blue or red corner, so the corner who also has a member moving forward towards battle, should get the round.

    and your ilk can be as esoteric or hipster-y as you want, while fetching me my coffee, cause that's where you find the pudding.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    It dictates when and where action occurs. It is at minimum half the fight preparation and strategy. Many Rock 'em Sock 'em fans can't see it.
     
  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    misconception, if the aggressor doesn't move forward, then there is no action, so who is dictating the action again?
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Nobody has to dictate any action. If both guys stay in their corners and stare at each other for three minutes it's a 10-10 round. If one guy takes a step forward, paws a jab, then changes his mind and stops moving still 20' away from his opponent, guess what? STILL a 10-10 round.
     
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  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree with you on Marquez-Bradley. Kind of reminds me a little of Canelo vs Golovkin, do you prefer quantity or quality.
    ......and the case of Marquez-Bradley, the punchstats like you said showed the total connects being nearly identical with Marquez having a significant edge in power connects.
    Yet try to make a case in this forum that Marquez beat Bradley and they think you're crazy.
    I'm convinced that to most, Bradley looked like the winner because he navigated the ring more athletically than the older now slowing Juan Manuel Marquez.
    .......but if you take a pen and paper as most do not and score that fight round by round as fights should be scored, you'll find the best you can give Bradley is a draw.
    Imo Marquez beat Bradley and in fact the only fighter he ever lost to imo was Floyd Mayweather when Marquez was climbing two weight divisions and being outweighed by Floyd.

    I don't agree with you on Golovkin wanting Canelo on the ropes. Quite a few times Golovkin would back off while Canelo was on the ropes as he was seeing himself get rope a doped.
    Golovkin isn't the ring general if Canelo wants to be on the ropes.
    Where I give Golovkin credit is in the middle rounds where he had Canelo backpedaling to buy time as he was arm weary from the work he'd done in the first half of the rounds, but in some of those middle rounds Golovkin couldn't cut the ring off proper to land cleanly, which gave Canelo the round on my scorecard for the work he put in offensively in the first half of the round.
     
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  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    the only action being taken is one guy stepping forward jabbing, which he dictated, not hard to understand. youre hell bent on outsmarting yourself.