Do people here honestly think that defense wins you points in boxing?

If you need to run, stall, and hold, then you are the more limited fighter. A more complete fighter can blend offense and defense. A complete fighter like James Toney or Roberto Duran can land his own punches and make yours miss while standing right in front of you.

 

Well even harols leddermen stated it should make up 20% of your round scoring criteria.

And leddermen has always heavily favored the aggressor (effective or not)

 

And despite that accusation you throw every Kovalev, GGG, Lomachenko, and usyk fan into the same group despite everyone of those fighters have a completely different ring dynamic.

There's one common factor here and it isn't fighting style. You might want to ask yourself why you really dislike these fighters.

 

Okay, this chump again. Mr Cool guy. That common factor is the same reason you don't like the fighters I prefer.

Let's be real here instead of passive-aggressive and subliminal. My guys are held to a higher standard. Floyd would never have reached his success if he stayed in one division and KO'ed a mass of C level competition lmao

Canelo is a bigger star than G and sells more because he's fought bigger names win or lose and go figure, exposed the fact that he's a more versatile fighter even though he's a "Mexican" who moves too much lmao

I guess GGG is a real "Mexican" lol

This thread just got fun. Let's not even mention Floyd. That argument is unfair and unreachable for the guys you just named. Let's see these guys reach Canelo's level of success. It's not going to happen. They've already been exposed by poor competition and they're the ones being pushed the most on this board and in the media lmao

Don't bring race into this especially in a punk passive-aggressive manner. You're just exposing yourself there pal. This board tilts more on the lighter side of things if you haven't noticed. Stop trying to play victim in a scenario where you get to have your cake and eat it too. Not my fault those guys aren't living up to the hype and people aren't buying it literally.

Casuals are still putting their money into the other guys. These are just facts. I'm sorry the fad isn't catching on bro no matter how hard you clowns try to act like these guys are the next greatest thing here in this little think tank called ESB.

 

1. Clean punching

2. Effective aggression

3. Ring Generalship

4. Defense.


So there you go, defense is part of the scoring criteria, but it just doesn't weigh as much as the #1 criteria which is clean punching.

 

Yeah this is as far as I'm getting in this post. Are you going to point out which fighters those are? Like I said before, you've lumped me in with a group without looking at my post history. Pretty sure the only two I hate are Broner and Stevenson for obvious reasons, and even then I don't really go out of my way to bash them. I criticize a lot of fighters but as far as Rigo and Ward are concerned I've gave them credit plenty of times. I don't even think I've ever bashed Rigo. Considering the Loma/Rigo and GGG/Canelo threads are what you keep stroking your ego to today I'll go ahead and point out that I don't hate on Canelo either. The only thing related to Canelo I dislike is ODLH as a promoter. I literally said yesterday that Canelo is a clean fighter inside the ring and I tune into every Canelo and Rigo fight no matter the opponent.

Once you removed that deluded mindset from your posts I'll entertain the rest.

 

Obviously never boxed before.

 

I really thought pro boxing you can win on

Effective Aggression
Clean and Effective Punching
Ring Generalship
Defense

 

What a **** post.

 

It's really simple.

1) Who is landing more punches?
2) Who is landing better punches?
3) Who is forcing the fight?
4) Who is controlling the space?
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6) All these things being equal, I'll give the round to the fighter that made the other miss more.

 

Because it goes against your whole belief system. Those guys don't sell and the public is not buying it.

 

The sort of fights we'll get with TDBNM7's preferred system of scoring:

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Everybody rejoice!

 

Yeah little kid. I can do the same....

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Which one is using Mexican style? I'm confused.

 

Ive said this in another thread somewhere. Scoring fights is so varied nowadays either by judges, pundits and everybody else like people like us on the RBR,s on here that i think people (me included) have forgotten how to score a fight it just seems to be way too open to perception.

Ducking, dodging, stepping away, shoulder rolls, bouncing off the ropes, moving round the ring and just getting out of the way can be an art form and should be taken into account i think in how a round of Boxing is going but its a fight game and doing all those things is not winning you the fight, use all that above to set up counters and land those counters that scores the points to win the rounds.

 

Wow, awesome, DKSABNoMore7 managed to respond to clips of boring ass defensive fights with ... nothing. Sock em robots Really? Because he knows damn well that posting clips like these:

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Will destroy his argument.