Do people in classic understand....

This is now another SNV appreciation thread.

GROUND ZERO folks.

 

you do understand that unless its crossing over the jab in a counter its some other punch usually a straight or an overhand?

and there is a right hook and its even mentioned in championship fighting.

 

I do know what you mean.When Manny flattened Hatton a lot of people were describing the punch as a left hook,when in fact it was the southpaw left cross.

 

I don't think its hard to throw but it is hard to land and it has a wider arc and distance to travel that makes it easier to slip and counter unless your at close quarters

 

Same here exactly mate.

 

Well, I used to think that.
But then I realised that a hook can be thrown from the other side. It need not be off the lead side.

A hook is a punch thrown with the arm bent rigid at the elbow, and turned over on impact. A hook is a hook. It can be thrown off either side.

The reason it is commonly, almost to the point of being exclusively, thrown off the lead side is because it's harder to seeing coming, doesn't have much distance to travel and can be thrown nicely off a jab or a feint of a jab.
etc. etc. etc.

I think 99% of us here know all of this.

 

Power can be generated in the hook (from the lead hand) simply by turning the knuckles at the optimum moment. People need to learn the scope of the variation when it comes to boxing. More than one way to do things. And you can throw hooks with the back hand, it's not the first thing you learn, it's not a beginner thing, and it normally is a shot thrown in a combo rather than solo, but it defo happens.

 

Exactly.

I do actually, almost any time a right-handed fighter happens to throw his right with a hooking motion.

 

I was the total opposite in my day. I could fire a jab and a straight right (which suited me as I was a tall, lanky guy), but my left hook was slow and awkwardly-executed.

 

Could you explain this a bit more detailed please, otherwise I don´t know what you are meaning.

 

Well I envy that, I was so **** at throwing my right hand straight, and under pressure I was even worse, I don't mean pressure as in my opponent being all over me, I just mean being in the ring and having to throw it properly. My elbow would always stick out, my trainer used to make me hit the bag standing with my ride side to the wall so that if my elbow stuck out it would hit the wall and it would hurt. I used to go southpaw and everything was easier for me, my jab was better, and my left cross was straight, but I couldn't generate power. I was quite **** really, haha.

 

OK, we know how the power for an orthodox left hook is generated.

But a hook off the other side gets power from the feet and through the hips too, just as every punch does. A straight right or a right cross, pivots on the back foot etc.

 

My left hook is sweet though, because of what I said about the turning the knuckles at the right time. I'm sure people here know what I mean. I read that in Mexico they still teach kids to throw hooks like Ruben Olivares, look how Olivares twists his wrists when the shot lands, so his knuckles ****in explode on the guy's chin. This sounds like a gay thing to say on the internet, don't believe me if you think I'm just some dickhead lying on the internet, but I ko'd some ***** who leaves round by ours about 6 years ago with a left hook and broke his jaw. I don't hit hard at all, but it happened because I did that knuckle turning thing, defo.