Do people in classic understand....

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Johnstown, Nov 21, 2010.


  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    What you actually said was " for a hook to be a hook it needs to be thrown with the hand that is on the side of the lead foot" ... .

    .... I'd call it a hook if it's blatantly a hook, rather than call it a cross.

    You're right on the point you're making now, but then again I've known pro boxers to get it "wrong", and Dan Rafael couldn't box his way out of a wet paper bag, so it doesn't matter much what you call it.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    What? :huh

    Crosses are straight punches...and straight rights should always cross your body if your stance is correct.

    The only difference in my experience is that it's called a cross almost exclusively when directly following a jab.

    The terms don't describe two different punches.
     
  3. Johnstown

    Johnstown Boxing Addict banned

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    truthfuly guys like lampley dont know ****....only time i hear actual punches distinguished is from guys like Steward and atlas...
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :lol:

    You do hear it.

    You also hear "right hook" and "straight left lead" called for southpaws.

    Maybe you guys just aren't watching as much boxing. :conf When you limit yourself to HBO and Showtime and a pool of about half a dozen commentators, the boxing lexicon isn't going to seem all that big.
     
  5. Leon

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    so with the way southpaws are supposed to keep their lead foot on the outside to land the left, it's moar common for them to be landing straight lefts than left crosses?:think
     
  6. Johnstown

    Johnstown Boxing Addict banned

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    [url]http://heavyfists.com/right-cross-straight-right-difference[/url]

    this isnt bad for a break down of the difference between a cross and a stright.
     
  7. Johnstown

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    yeah..i found that when i fight southpaws...if i step to my left...i am then right between the guard the of my opponent..when i throw my right STRAIGHT it often goes right through the guard in a straight line.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That person is mistaken.

    Vitali Klitschko is throwing the same punch in both of these pictures. The angle is off by a scant few degrees. There are no different mechanics involved.

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    Both are more or less delivered at an angle parallel to the ground (or close enough).

    If it's more of a convex angle, it's an overhand r/l.

    If it's delivered with a bent elbow from underneath at a concave angle, obviously, it's an uppercut.

    If it strays far off to the side before landing or comes from pretty much any other weird angle not described above, it's a haymaker.
     
  9. Johnstown

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    not sure if i agree Intenernation..i have thrown straights and crosses..and i get power into the punches different....strights is more of a partial forward step with the back foot....a cross is always a pivot on the ball of the back foot.....and of course..the cross crosses over from right to left....the stright just goes stright.
     
  10. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    those arent my giffs and your a douchebag.
     
  11. Johnstown

    Johnstown Boxing Addict banned

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    I know i was just saying they are a good find...and you really dont know ****....if you think that overhand was a hook then you need to go learn some punches (but actually i will admit that i was wrong....hooks can be thrown with the backhand..but its rare...they are really only safe to throw as a infighting punch)
     
  12. Ylem

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    actually a falling step right straight.

    thats how he throws them kinda cocks his arm up and out at an angle then punches straight from there.

    a cross is not a punch it is a counter.

    some times it can be a straight punch more often though its an overhand punch. it is called a cross because your punch crosses over the jab as a counter.
     
  13. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    really both punches were delivered with an arc/hooking motion both of those punches could be classified as a hook.

    you can call them whatever you want... and by all means continue to be a dick about it.

    the one good thing about sharia law is you can be executed for being a douchebag.

    freedom has its downside after all.
     
  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Wrong.

    There's a lot of misinformation in this thread. :-(

    The classic "1-2-3" consists of a lead-hand jab (1), rear-hand straight cross (2), and lead-hand hook (3). This is boxing 101.
     
  15. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    executing people for being a douche? sounds like somthing a 6 year old child thats being bullied would come up with.

    Sharia law......who ever thought that one up needs to grow the **** up