Do people realize Deontay Wilder has won one fight in 4 years?

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  1. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Then why did Fury go life and death with him and come within a ****'s hair of being stopped on cuts?
     
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  2. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And how does a flash knockdown where he wasn't hurt show that?

    You didn't have a point.

    This forum is ******ed, Wilder clearly has crazy power regardless of his other ability, Fury took those shots and your claiming he has a bad chin. Jokes.
     
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  3. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He did not.
     
  4. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    2 wins. He beat Ortiz and Helenius and lost 2x to the best heavyweight in the world. The only fight for him that makes sense is the AJ fight.
     
  5. It's Ovah

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    Wasn't the only time he got hurt in that fight.

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  6. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    When did Wilder fight Usyk? :thinking:
     
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  7. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lmao
     
  8. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I stand by what I said, Fury has ducked every challenge in his career that wasn't old and shot, except bum ass Wilder.
     
  9. Manning

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    He’s the black David Rodriguez with better marketing.
     
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  10. Mark Anthony

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    Because he got cut, but he still out-landed him by miles.
     
  11. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well after I gave a lengthy multi paragraph response of interrelated counterpoints I was hoping for more than a 1 sentence reply. I'm busy but this, like much of my internet usage, is an escape.
    I wish someone would respond to my points or at least give me 3 cheers or a like.
    As to your brief reply. Fighters have ducked Fury during his career too. Furthermore many HW champs have beaten past it, former top and HW champs. Just off the top of my head Joe Louis, Marciano (to Louis), Ali, and others have. The biggest difference to now is that for most of the 20th century the top HWs (all divisions really) fought each other more often. This is not Fury's fault.
    Wilder is many things, an awful sportsman, delusional, etc., but he is hardly a "bum ass" fighter. That's like saying Frazier & Norton were crap HWs back in the day (they both had some bad losses). See #2 below. Among HWs, during the past 5+ years there has been nothing bigger than the Fury-Wilder trilogy. The pair of AJ-Ruiz & Usyk-AJ are up there but below Fury-Wilder.

    I'll review & restate some of my long response.
    1) Among most peoples top 4 HWs, The smallest of them, Usyk, deserves little to no criticism. But Fury, Wilder, AJ can be equally criticized. Wilder & AJ do get slammed here, but Fury has been getting outsized criticism. Why? Maybe it's the madness of crowds effect.

    2) In this site even the top HWs get heavy negative and disapproving posts compared to favorable posts. Would it be much different for other eras if the tech and sites like this existed in other eras? I used the 1970s & Ali as an example b/c many feel like it's some sort of "golden" era with Ali as it's main prophet. It isn't and would've been treated the same as the current and recent eras. In general and specifically among the HWs. Why am I so confident? B/c human nature hasn't changed much in 1,000s of years. It certainly hasn't in ~50 years.

    3) Size matters - that's why they have weight divisions. In the long run the human population has exploded and among some groups at least, people have been slowly getting bigger. The pool of talented big HW men is much larger than 50 & 100 years ago. There is no denying either point. Not to mention the HW div. was almost a US "club" until Eastern Europe opened up. Again, I could go on & on. I like to see some agreement (it's not illegal) OR well reasoned counters to my responses before I write more. From anyone :cool:
     
  12. elmaldito

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    fury devastated him mentally. Guy isnt the same dude.
     
  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, no he does not. "Crazy power" entails knocking out world-class opponents with good chins. He has very good power when he gets full extension on his right. That is all.
     
  14. DavHQ

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    fury is the biggest duck in boxing ever
     
  15. DavHQ

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    what?? He went life and death with wallin . Toyed? Your vision is prob 20/200