Do people really rate Roy Jones win over Bernard Hopkins?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Do people really rate Roy Jones win over Bernard Hopkins?

    Dont get me wrong because its a good win, but its definately not a great win.
    Yes Jones was a novice at the time also, but was known with an Olympic background. Hopkins was an unknown MW with a loss on his record who after losing to Jones couldnt win a world title in his next attempt where he was put over twice and nearly KOd by Mercado. It wouldnt have looked that special a result if anyone asked straight after the Mercado fight and didnt look that special a result at the time.
    Neither had beaten anyone of note and Hopkins had already been beaten and only drew with Mercado after.

    Its like saying C Mitchells win over Hopkins was a good win.


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  2. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You'll be mocking Hopkins win over Trinidad next in a thread made with your Alt 'Electric Guru'

    Oh, wait.
     
  3. Dipset

    Dipset Dipset4Ever Full Member

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    Solid UD...with ONE f**king hand...ONE
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Electric Guru? If you think that someone is an alt of mine you better call the mods, as I dont need an alt. Why make competition for ESBs greatest poster?

    I dont rate Hopkins win over Tito that much. Tito was a former WW that had been put over 7 times that I know of, and had only had one MW fight, never done well at the weight or above, whilst Hopkins turned pro inside the CW limit.

    Still all this was a bit before the time ofaa young kid like yourself
     
  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    :lol:

    Calzaghe fanatics just can't stand Roy :verysad
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What had Hopkins done at the time?
    Do you think Hopkins was giving it his all in that fight?
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Whos a Calzaghe fanatic?
    Why would you say they cant stand Roy, nobody here is saying anything bad about him
     
  8. Skittlez

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    Good thread Bailey. I also had numerous theories regarding that win and Roy's MW-SMW 'dominance'

    I shall come back later.
    I also think that poster who stalks you 'Dinovelvet' will soon be making an appearance and start babbling his utter bull****.
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I will be very interested to read these theories from an educated gent and scholar like yourself
     
  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Stop it Felix. Roy beating Hopkins was a fantastic win. How many times did Hopkins lose at the weight after and how long did it take?
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Felix?

    Hopkins had already lost coming in.

    How many fighters did Hopkins fight at MW who were as naturally heavy as him and as big as him? Remember on his debut he weighed in inside the CW limit.
    After Jones beat Hopkins, Hopkins only went 4-0-1 in his first 5 fights and was lucky to some not to have a loss in that draw when put over twice and nearly KOd
     
  12. Dipset

    Dipset Dipset4Ever Full Member

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    He was apprehensive...because of Roy...his Speed & Power...Bhop did not want to take risks...because he knew Roy was a true threat to him...
     
  13. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    It was a win that became a very good with time due to Hopkins future success in the division. However, at the time, Hopkins was an unknown contender and wasn't quite the fighter he would go on to become. It's a very good win, not a great win, Jones only great win in my opinion is that over Toney.

    In my opinion when judging the quality of wins, you have to look at where the fighter where at the time, how they were rated, then use hindsight to see what they did afterwards
     
  14. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Fighters lose, get over it. Who cares if Hopkins had a loss coming in :lol: :patsch The fact Hopkins was such a big skilled middleweight and Roy handled him with ease with one hand, speaks to how great Jones Jr. is.
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Absolutely correct. You have to look at where the fighter was at the time :good