Do people understand why Joshua is ducking Wilder now?

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  1. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    you lost all credibility a few words into your post by calling klitschko 53 and a 5 year layoff lol... dude Joshua will ko wilder.. and violently.. Ortiz outboxed him for 9 rounds... Joshua will destroy wilder lol.
     
  2. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Ortiz is a way better boxer than joshua.
    Tbh, joshua is no better than wilder at all. They both are horrible boxers, that win because they are giant freaks with unbelieavable power. That's all.
     
  3. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    you must be blind.. Joshua is clearly a better pure boxer then wilder... if you can't see that I dunno how to help you lol.
     
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  4. Todd498

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    Say it with you “Genital”?? WTF
     
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  5. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Considering how Vlad floored him and had him reeling and how Vlad isn't as devastating a puncher as Wilder is, it does make a certain sense for Josh to be a bit wary of exposing his chin by fighting Wilder.
     
  6. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Klitch is far more robotic and predictably orthodox than Wilder is. Wilder is wilder. Many here say that is a weakness. I see his wild punches coming from unpredictable angles as a strength.
     
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  7. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    LOL I still assume that its because Wilder still wants 50% but yes he could be **** scared to fight him and all that..

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  8. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    This is true but I think AJ hits harder that Ortiz and isn't at the size disadvantage Ortiz was so in that 7th round that fight would have been over..

    Point is we know pretty much the first big hit is going to win the fight.

    TBH for one shot pure power I think the bloke in your avatar hits harder... (He wouldn't win a fight though)..
     
  9. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearn knows Wilder is the most dangerous opponent out there. Joshua knows Wilder is the most dangerous opponent out there. And anyone but a blind man knows it too.
     
  10. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    I do lol at these guys all in here crowing because some of us actually needed to see some proof that someone was any good, you know not fighting 39 average fighters (one wan't his fault) or anything...

    He just did something most of us were ridiculing him for not doing and pretty much most of us have said well done...

    This fight is going to get made maybe not next mainly because Wilder took a beating and will need time to recover (AJ has to beat Parker first) and obviously one of these guys careers is going to take a big financial hit after losing so they both want to maximise their financial worth..
     
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  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Thats due to Browne being limited with his movement and speed added to the fact he is getting on with age and started boxing professionally late albeit coming from an MMA background.

    You are correct AJ has the size advantage over Ortiz plus faster hands.

    Saying that he is not awkward he is a basic orthodox fighter who rarely moves his head. Then there is the limited footwork. In my opinion this all makes him tailor made for Wilder.

    Wilder will play it safe and let the fight drag iur to the mid to late rounds while encouraging Joshua to come forward to chase and commit with punches by keeping his guard low exactly as he did against Ortiz.

    Wilder can actually move around the ring and not suffer stamina issues due to his slim frame. He only has to look at the work Takum did to avoid being stopped in the initial rounds when Joshua is at his best.

    I can't make an argument on how Joshua avoids the right hand and big wild swings for 36 minutes. And as soon as those shots land on Joshua chin it's over.
     
  12. Hercegovac

    Hercegovac Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua is a long standing champion and a much more recognizable fighter than Parker. AJ-Wilder would have way more viewers than AJ-Parker, why would Wilder take less than some unknown dude from New Zealand?
     
  13. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets see how Joshua pulls up against Parker before being concerned Joshua would have to be the one waiting for Wilder to heal.
     
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  14. PernellSweetPea

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    he ducked him. Everyone wanted that fight and Floyd didn't want it. It was obvious no matter what people say. Because Floyd never fought anyone who was really tough or hungry, he handpicked guys at the right time. This is not a mystery. He handpicked.
     
  15. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Well Ortiz couldn't do it but he couldn't close the show either something AJ is very good at..

    My point is that people seem to be coming on here thinking Wilder is just going to KO AJ with out breaking a sweat because he ko'd Ortiz..

    The reality was he was very close to being stopped in the 7th by a far smaller man (a great boxer though) and he was pretty tentative because he couldn't crack the code. AJ isn't a south paw but he is a bigger far stronger proposition who can do 6 punch combinations and doesn't need anywhere as much time to set these up..

    I think i said in the latest who wins thread that I'll need to see how AJ looks when fighting Parker. Hopefully he loses some weight to get a bit of speed back..