Do perfect records even matter?

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  1. K.D

    K.D Active Member Full Member

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    Am I the only one who doesn't give a **** about records? I just want to see good fights.

    I feel fighters protect their records too much today. They think with one loss they will become irrelevant. But that's not the case...

    If GGG and Canelo fight, WHEN WE WANTED THEM TO FIGHT, the loser's stock would still rise. How can your stock drop when you're in a megafight...
    Boxing could easily climb back to the top, if we made the fights the people want to see. There are really so many great fights out there. If Thurman takes a loss againt Pacquiao, or vise versa, I wouldnt care. I'd just be happy to see two great fighters fight.

    Perfect records are overrated nowadays...
     
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  2. Kid-Dynamite

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    49-0 tbe
     
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  3. K.D

    K.D Active Member Full Member

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    Mayweather fought and beat everyone, he's different.
     
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  4. Optimus Dime

    Optimus Dime Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A Floyd 50-0 and Rocky 50-0.. yes and no..


    The aim of the game is to be 50-0 (50).. but what's the aim of the game after a loss?
     
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  5. Optimus Dime

    Optimus Dime Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    "Barx".. Lennox style..
     
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  6. K.D

    K.D Active Member Full Member

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    that, is not the aim of the game.
     
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  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    o means nothing, theres no name next to it, its proof of nothing.


    other figures that mean something since they have a name next to it.
     
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  8. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    No. In fact you could argue that the emphasis on perfect records has degraded boxing, made fighters reluctant to take meaningful fights. etc.

    But I don't blame the fighters, per se - they are responding to a media-created context that portrays this as a criterion for true greatness, and promoters who use this as a marketing tool to tout fighters and increase paydays.

    In that environment, of course fighters are going to do whatever they can to protect that 0. It's part of protecting their brand, and enhancing their income.
     
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  9. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Thanks. In some respects I am disagreeing with the idea that they don't matter. They don't matter in terms of reflecting anything about the overall quality of the fighter - but they do matter in that the emphasis on them has negatively impacted the quality of the sport overall.:yep
     
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  10. BCS8

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    A zero does have a certain allure. A zero having fought cans, however, invites derision. I'd rather be a Holyfield who fought everybody with losses than oh, I don't know, Wilder, say, who has a fantastic looking record and has yet to leave mom's basement.
     
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  11. Optimus Dime

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    Well the aim of the game is definitely to be 50-0..
     
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  12. Optimus Dime

    Optimus Dime Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That's the rub.. Floyd has a strong chance of going 50-0..


    Marciano would have gone 1 against Floyd Patterson or Sonny Liston..
     
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  13. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Depends on who you maintained that 0 against.
     
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  14. K.D

    K.D Active Member Full Member

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    yeah i know, but i mean does it matter if a fighter takes a loss to another great opponent, like Thurman vs Porter. Two great fighters, but I dont care that porter lost. It was a great fight and porters stock only rised
     
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  15. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Doesn't matter to me. Only time losing to bad to me is when you consistently lose.
     
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