Do we need a SHW division?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Wass1985, Nov 9, 2017.


Do we need a SHW Division?

  1. No

    25 vote(s)
    78.1%
  2. Yes (What weight?)

    2 vote(s)
    6.3%
  3. 230lb

    2 vote(s)
    6.3%
  4. 235lb

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. 240lb

    3 vote(s)
    9.4%
  6. 245lb

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    SHW for 500+ lbs girls !
     
  2. pernellaaron

    pernellaaron Active Member Full Member

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    I think that's a category on pornhub
     
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  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I think we should have a name change. Keep cruiser but call it heavyweight. Brings it in line with amateur boxing.

    Anybody who can't make cruiser/heavy is a super heavyweight. Just like what we are seeing anyway.

    Trust me all the prestige will be bellow Superheavyweight. A guy like Wilder will make heavyweight.
     
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  4. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No 180 to 210 is optimal. Cut the limit to 215 . Being about 190 will give fighters element of surprise along with accurate punching and more punches thrown.

    This will rid the division of all these overweight big stiffs.It will also let cruiser weights compete ,who wants to see bigger punchers with better chins going at it? Ridiculous ,we don't pay too see sockem rockem stiff robots. The statistics are misleading, creating the cruiser weight division was just to collect more $$$.
     
  5. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No, keep it the same. The heavyweight champ is supposed to symbolize the best fighter in the world and a god among men or whatever they say. If that happens to be a 6'5" 250 lb fighter then so be it.
     
  6. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But don't you think it's unfair to a good 210lb-220lber having to give up 40-30lb?
     
  7. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cases for and against. I'll think carefully and get back.
     
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  8. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No. It's not like they are malnourished or starving themselves. They're at the weight they feel comfortable at. Plus, a 210-220 should have a conditioning edge over the bigger more muscled up shw. Regardless though a 210-220 pounder at its best is more than capable of beating a 250 pounder. Look at Cunningham vs Fury. Dude nearly knocked Fury out and he was a mediocre heavyweight. A natural 190 pound fighter.
     
  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield proved they are capable but he was one of a very few that could do it, it's getting ever more difficult to replicate his feats.
     
  10. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That's because the trend is to bulk up at heavyweight. Tyson was a threat to everyone all throughout the 80s and 90s regardless of who he fought or how big they were and he was 5'10 217-219 at his peak. All we need is more good fighters, there just isn't anyone around.
     
  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What 240lb + ATG did Tyson ever face and beat?
     
  12. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Tyson only faced one and that was Lennox Lewis. Tyson fought him at the end of his career when he was arguably at his worst. Golota was his last good fight.
     
  13. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Golota was a car crash by then and way past his sell-by-date, he pulled a quit job. Tyson never defeated a fighter with the size and quality of a Klitschko.
     
  14. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    But he utterly dominated most fighters of that size that he fought prior to 2001

    If a Klitschko beats him its because they're better, not because they're bigger.
     
  15. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't fight any good one's that's why.