do we need a super heavyweight division...

No, Chambers could make 200lbs if he wanted and a 205lb Holyfield would be no1 today as would a 210lb Tyson, so NO

 

A 218lb prime Tyson would **** those big lurpy *******s up.

 

With no wish to dump on you who started this thread, i'm completely sick and tired of people bringing this up, and then people having to point out once again how many smaller fellas beat the **** out of guys who towered over them.
You mention 'guys that are athletic and 30+ pounds heavier', but the vast majority of these 250+ pound guys are not athletic and are slow as hell, which often means that when they face a quality guy who is much smaller their size means dick.
Ofcourse there are the Klitschko's, but to be honest: yes, i could see a prime Tyson deal with them, though i expect he would be hard pressed, especially against Vitali. In fact, prime Tyson beat several guys who were around 6'5 and athletic, though they were not as heavy as many of the guys we see today, but i don't think they would have been better off if they were.

Bottom line: yes, sometimes it seems unfair for guys to have to fight guys who are 50+ pounds heavier, but it's also very intriguing to watch sometimes, and at the end of the day, quality beats size. No need to mess about with the weight classes and boxing history once again because of a bunch of 280-pound fat-asses, thank you.

 

Another weight division with 10 world titles in it? That's just what boxing needs at the minute.

 

Do you know what you need?! You need to times of Soviet Union+communism coming back so the FLOOD of Eastern Europeans for Heavyweights stop instantly.

FACT:deal

:rofl

 

It is needed for those who want to put a possible final nail in a coffin.

 

no

 

There is a point to this. Assuming that a heavyweight is 250lb and he is fighting a smaller heavyweight of 210lbs, that is akin to:

A Featherweight (126) fighting a Super Welterweight (150) (Hamed vs Oscar)
A Lightweight (135) fighting a Super Middleweight (160.7) (JMM vs Pavlik)
A Welterweight (147) fighting a Light heavyweight (175) (Cotto vs Hopkins)
A Middleweight (160) fighting a Cruiser weight (190.5) (Pavlik vs Haye)
A Light Heavyweight (175) fighting a Heavyweight (208.3) (Hopkins vs Tyson)


That pointed out, I don't think there should be a new weight class, in fact, there are too many already. Perhaps a restructuring would be better. Elimintate some of those small weigh tclasses where there is only a few lbs difference, bump up light heavy and cruiser limits and so on...

 

nope

 

I think it's pretty much widely understood that punching power kinda starts to plateau when you start getting over 200 lbs. By your logic Nikolai Valuev@320 lbs has a 70 lbs weight advantage over Wladimir Klitschko@240 lbs... who is the more fearsome puncher head to head?

 

Very good point. I did not take that into account. I would surmise that a 210lb man can generate enough force to knock out 250 lb man; while, a 126lb man would find it difficult to generate enough force to hurt a 150. But there are still advantages in being bigger and stronger: in pushing weight around and holding, leaning... Taking the example of Wlad Klitschko (who certainly likes to hold) would he be as successful holding if he had someone of equal or greater size? Perhaps, because he has lots of skill. But, the greater the discrepancy in size, the greater the amount of skill and stamina needed to overcome it.

 

no need for another division but the heavyweights will be dominated from now on by 6-5 and up giants

 

Bring back 15 round fights and the super-sized heavyweight will go the way of the dinosaur...

 

Great idea!