Do we need anymore proof that Manny was scared of fighting Floyd?

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  1. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: LOL!
     
  2. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    I don't think he's scared of Floyd or that he's on PEDs, but I definetly think that Pacquiao (or his team) really didn't want to fight Floyd. If he did then he would have taken the tests.
     
  3. Cocteau

    Cocteau Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What lies exactly? Your PacHatred syndrome instinct got you an amnesia on the context of the negotiation already?

    Stop kiddin' yourself. Whilst 20 or 21 is indeed lower than 24, but it's still not lower or equal to 14. As translated in the video, Pac still needs 3-4 days to recover from that physical.

    So, did Pac lied that he doesn't accept 14 days? Answer: No, he's consistent on that (21 isn't 14).

    So, did Pac lied that he "thinks" bottles of blood being taken out weakens him? No, he's consistent on that too.


    So, did Pac lied when he said he's not taking PED? No, fact that he's willing to have blood taken out (which can or cannot be legitimately tested for PEDs, he doesn't care he thinks he's clean anyway). In fact, this video dispels the scientific theory of Mayweather Sr. and Roger's Pacroid / A-Side Meth.

    If you're too blind to see that this is more of a i wont bend over on whatever floyd dictates, i will only do what the commission (like this physical / test that have blood sample to test for PEDs) will mandate. Not about the 14 days or 20 days or 21 days or 24 days cutoff blood sample - then you're hopeless.
     
  4. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Another load of bull****.


    If his refusal to take the random blood tests wa all about bending to Floyd's demands, then why did he continue to say it was all about it weakening him, or about being afraid of needles, and nonsense like this?


    Why didn't he flat out refuse from the very beginning?
     
  5. Cocteau

    Cocteau Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh i agree. He should have said "hey world, bottles of blood taken out weakens me, but im willing to take it if the commission said so. But primarily, **** you floyd for your obvious mind games with endless demands on your pocket"

    Dude, welcome to boxing. I don't want to spell it out, but now i have to: Read between the lines, if you do then you'll see a big "**** you floyd, your demands won't end" written all over Pac's negotiation team.

    Negotiation is a psychological war. You don't open your card.
     
  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Floyd really wanted the fight why start coming up with "fight ending" rumors that had no foundation and no facts to support them. Accusing the guy who is going to offer you your EASIEST and LARGEST payday of roids and PEDs is not exactly SCREAMING "I want to fight you".

    No....those words "I want to fight you" was just that....WORDS. From Floyd himself. Floyd also said many other things that would lead everyone to believe he wanted to fight Manny. Stating how easy that fight would be...and to NOT be surprised that he'd KO Manny...That Manny is all hype and ain't ****. He also said that he was so willing and EAGER to beat Manny's ass that all Manny had to do was say his name and the fight was as good as done.:roll:

    Floyd said a lot of things......but NONE of what he did matched what his mouth was saying. He COULD have faced Manny right after Manny blasted Ricky out in two. But Floyd announced he was going to fight JMM.....saying that he wanted to face JMM b/c he felt that JMM was the P4P king since he retired. I THINK Floyd just wanted to build up the fight and get some more leverage at the negotiation table. Which I was fine with, although I really wanted to see the fight with PAC and him right away.

    Floyd knew he'd be facing the either Cotto or Manny so he was waiting to see who would be the winner. After Manny beat Cotto him, his daddy and uncles all began singing the same song.....A song that was VASTLY different from the song they were all singing about Manny prior to knowing Floyd would be pretty much FORCED to face Manny after both FLoyd and PAC won their fights.

    All the **** they slung about Manny being one demensional, limited, beneath Floyd in all areas, an easy win, all hype...ect.ect.ect......to Manny's on some ****, there is no way he can do that, there is no way he could have done this, he's got to be on the best peds that are only available in the Philipines:roll:....to he's on the "A-side of meth":lol:...

    I mean....if Floyd isn't scared...he sure isn't doing a good job trying to prove otherwise. When has floyd EVER shown concern about a future opponent? Not to mention a smaller man....When has he ever given his foe a glimpse of mental weakness by insinuating he's concerned about coming out the victor by stating his opponent is taking somthing to enhance his ability? When has Floyd went so far as to make demands for Olympic style testing as the only way he'd fight.:rofl?

    Does that seem like Floyd is confident?
     
  7. Wige247

    Wige247 Active Member Full Member

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    Fact: Team Manny agreed that 14 days was a compromise they'd accept.
    Fact: Team Floyd offered 14 days during arbitration.
    Fact: Team Manny changed their minds after THEIR OWN TERMS WERE MET!

    Men lie, women lie, facts don't lie.
     
  8. Wige247

    Wige247 Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe scared isn't the word, but it was definitely a duck. I hold Pac responsible for what he says. He says getting blood drawn less than 24 days weakens him and is non-negotiable. The he gets blood drawn 20 days out for the replacement fight. Either he's underestimating Clottey and willing to fight him when he's weak or he ducked Floyd.
     
  9. Wige247

    Wige247 Active Member Full Member

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    What were demands A, B, and C that Floyd got Manny to agree on?
     
  10. Wige247

    Wige247 Active Member Full Member

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    The fight was all set to happen. Team Manny said, give us 14 days and the fight's on. Team Floyd gave them 14 days. Team Manny changed their mind.

    When there was one final obstacle to contracts getting signed, Floyd put up and Manny shut up.
     
  11. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    I would like any proof that manny is scared of floyd.
    How can you be scared of a guy who will run from you for 36 minutes?
    What is so terrifying????
     
  12. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    So why didn't Manny accept the terms? And how in the world could Floyd have anticipated Manny NOT accepting the 14 day cutoff???

    Either Manny said no to the blood tests because it weakens him, but then the question has to be raised as to why he just gave blood 20 days out when he told Floyd he'd only do 24 days.

    OR

    He didn't take them because he doesn't want to give Floyd the satisfaction....but then the hypocrisy arises from team Pac because they have a history of imposing their own ridiculous stipulations in contracts.
     
  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    poor Pac haters still pissed that Manny is the best fighter of the decade

    I think its around that time of the year when someone has to start bumping threads where everyone was saying Pac would never win a title at 135, 140, 147 and would get murdered by Juan Diaz.
     
  14. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Pac is just a ***** plain and simple. Nothing really more needs to be said. If you agree.. you are with the man club.. if you disagree you are with the trannys.
     
  15. cloud_cyc

    cloud_cyc p4p demon Full Member

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    okay pac haters. with this recent development (pac letting them take blood from him 20 days before the fight), i'm just wondering on what your opinions are... is pac now "afraid of floyd" or "pac is a PED user"?