Do you agree with The Ring's new heavyweight rankings?

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder has been in the Ring top 10 for eight years - never missed a week. Still doesn't get the respect he deserves.

    The question is: Where will Fury be two weeks from today when he is 1-1-1 with the World Champion Wilder?

    Will they put Fury at number 3 behind Usyk and Joshua? Probably not.

    Wilder has one loss (to the World Champ, who he also floored twice and fought to a draw in a successful title defense).

    Fellow contender Joshua has two losses to contenders in the top six (Usyk and Ruiz). Same with Parker (Whyte and Joshua). Same with Ruiz (Parker and Joshua). Same with Ortiz (Wilder twice).

    The third spot seems too high for Joshua. He's just a contender now. He's never fought the best fighter in the division. His best win over the current group came in 2015 (against Whyte) when they were just prospects. That's a long time to be living off that win. People need to stop bending over backwards for him.

    Joyce should be higher, definitely.

    I have no idea at all why Oscar Rivas is even ranked. Still a mystery to me. Same with Hunter. He ducked an eliminator with Hrgovic to fight on the undercard of a RAP BATTLE in his last fight against a 40 year old journeyman cruiserweight. Hunter isn't even trying anymore.

    Ortiz needs to **** or get off the pot, as they say. There was talk he was going to fight Andy Ruiz, but Andy's knees can't hold him up anymore. Ruiz and Ortiz need a big win or they should go.

    Otto Wallin should be sitting where Hunter is at #8. Joyce should be behind Wallin at #9 ... and both are primed to step into Ruiz and Ortiz's spots.

    Like Joyce, it's time to start filtering in the unbeaten rising stars.

    I'd be fine with Yoka moving in to the #10 spot. I'd be fine with the winner of Ajagba-Sanchez moving in to the #10 spot.

    Start moving out the dead weight like Hunter, Rivas and, unless they have a big fight next time out, Ruiz and Ortiz.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

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    Does the World Series of Boxing count now (with Usyk-Joyce eight years ago)?

    If so, toss Parker out of the top 10 entirely. He lost three fights in the World Series of Boxing and only won once.

    Wilder is 2-1-1 with the current top 10 ... soon to be 3-1-1.
     
  3. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk vs joyce without headgear. Imo it counts. If wilder beats fury then we have a new number 1.
    I would love to see wilder vs usyk
     
  4. Dubblechin

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    If Wilder beats Fury, we have a new WORLD CHAMP. Usyk stays in the #1 contender spot.

    I'd love to see Wilder-Usyk, too!

    They (Wilder-Usyk) should've fought in the Olympic Heavyweight semifinals in 2008. Would've been a nice matchup to compare with an upcoming World title fight.

    If we're counting World Series of Boxing, fine with me. Throw Parker the hell out. I never got the hype with that guy, either.

    They originally counted WSB fights on a guy's pro record. But boxers said they wouldn't participate anymore if they were counted. But, I agree, no headgear, five rounds and they all got paid. Sounds like professional boxing to me.

    That's five losses for Parker, then.
     
  5. miketysonko

    miketysonko Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Wilder beats Fury… lol. He has no chance whatsoever.
     
  6. Dubblechin

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    That's why Fury's training so hard. Because Wilder has no chance whatsoever.
     
  7. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wilder has never defeated a prime fighter with pulse. He fought someone good twice and lost twice, that bum should not be in top 5 , he is a fraud.
     
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  8. miketysonko

    miketysonko Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you new to boxing?! Always train hard no matter who you are facing… that’s why the Gypsy King is undefeated
     
  9. Dubblechin

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    Wilder has been in the Ring top 10 for nearly EIGHT STRAIGHT YEARS (401 consecutive weeks) and he hasn't been outside the Top three contenders (still there) for SIX YEARS.

    He's fighting the PRIME WORLD Heavyweight Champion for the THIRD TIME in about 11 days.

    Nobody in the top 10 has fought a better opponent more times. Floored a better opponent more times. Successfully defended a title against a better opponent.

    And Wilder will be the WORLD champion himself in 11 days.

    Catch up already.
     
  10. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IF wilder wins. But then yes he is the champ. I still think fury will brutalize him this time even more.

    Parker is always bad. I don't get the hype for him.

    Wsb is for me legitimate. No head gear 5 rounds and the best prospects face each and get paid. It's really great. The experience they make is 10 times better then the typical start of a professional boxer.

    Usyk wilder is still fascinating, can wilder get through to him or will usyk toy with him.
    Usyk said in an interview one year ago that wilder is the easiest fight for him
     
  11. Dubblechin

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    Yeah, that's Fury. Always train hard no matter who you are facing. (LOL) Are you new to boxing? (LOL)
     
  12. Sandman_

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    Yes, flick Ortiz & Rivas. They are H/W non-entities. I'd move Joyce up & probably fill the last couple of spots on potential by giving them to his fellow 2016 Olympic Super Heavy medalists, Yoka & Hrgovic. Who have they beaten to deserve it? No-one, but they're better than everyone else out there.

    Agree with Joshua above Wilder for now. Wilder gets the chance to go lineal & top of the pops in a week & a bit. One punch could put Wilder on top of the pile. The winner of the last fight in the trilogy takes it all & becomes the legitimate heavyweight champion of the world. I hope Usyk aspires to fight him.
     
  13. gdm

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    can crusher should have never been on any list . Fury is nothing special and was still able to beat him twice, literally smashed that pathetic bum.
    Any decent HW beat that fraud.
     
  14. ShovelHook

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    He was basically so confident in his Joshua pick over Usyk that he said he'd officially become a Wilder fanboy for the next two weeks if he was wrong.
     
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  15. gdm

    gdm Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    lol Haha. I was also certain AJ will KO Usyk in mid rounds. I was rooting for Usyk of course and really glad he won.
     
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