Do you agree with these Tiers of Greatness for 90s-00s fighters?

How can lennox lewis be in anything other than tier 1?!

 

its a real shame bailey because everytime i ask popkins a relevant boxing question in a thread, he gets all scared and defensive, refusing to answer it because he worries that i will make him look a **** again.

popkins is happy to debate with anyone he thinks he can walk all over but when he gets a tough question that will contradict his opinion, he would rather duck it, and change the topic of debate by going off on an elaborate tangent to deflect posters away from the fact that he wouldn't answer the original relevant question. these elaborate tangents generally lead to him starting a petty new thread about one small irrelevant aspect of the previous thread. this is precisely why silencer labelled popkins "a pissy little poster".

at the minute popkins kind of reminds me of floyd mayweather with the way he ducks, his solid weeks of continued cutting and pasting response to my questions is his equivalent of floyd saying "take the test" . he would rather throw his whole thread into chaos than answer the relivant question posed.

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wait till you here that fragile popkins ranks sam langford higher in his all-time heavyweight rankings than lennox lewis

he earlier ducked debating this point with 'luf' :rofl

 

You and popkins have been throwing insults at each other, but to say he is the sort of boxing fan who ranks Sam Langford higher than Lewis is going too far!

 

come on bailey, i know your capable of good posts from time to time, this trolling **** needs to stop.

 

p.s. i agree with langford's p4p prowess.

and i'll say this here hoping no greb apologists see this but i think langford has the best resume in the history of boxing (hopefully in the general people won't know who i'm comparing and noone will shoot me down :good )

 

Calzaghe didnt beat Hopkins on workrate, he beat Hopkins because Calzaghe was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
If you take Taylors 2 fight scorecards against Hopkins, his clear points of victory overall werent as much as Calzaghe scored in 1 fight with Hopkins .
Hopkins was coming on strong against Taylor, but against Calzaghe Hopkins was looking for time out.

Tier 1 Calzaghe :smoke

 

You look at hopkins and you ask, what are his best wins



trinidad
prime weight = welterweight (147)
fought hopkins at middleweight (159) :deal
trinidads record at middleweight or above from hopkins onwards = 2 wins / 3 defeats.

winky wright
prime weight - light middleweight (154)
fought hopkins at - 170 lbs :deal
in 57 fights, the hopkins fight was the only fight that wright had weighed over 160 lbs (a full 10lbs difference)

de la hoya
prime weight - welterweight (140lbs)
fought hopkins at - middleweight (160lbs) :deal
de la hoya only fought twice in his career at middleweight out of 45 fights -1 win / 1 loss - the win was a very debatable decision over eurobum felix sturm

pavlik
prime weight - middleweight (160 lbs)
fought hopkins at - 170 lbs :deal
in 34 fights pavlik had only fought 2 minnions at the beginning of his career at 169. all pavliks fights since hopkins have been at the 160 limit.

tarver
prime weight 175
great 2 weight jump from hopkins and his best win despite tarver being a b-level fighter and going 3 wins / 3 losses from hopkins onwards.

johnson
prime weight -super mid / light heavy (162 to 175)
fought hopkins at - middleweight (160)
johnsons record at 160 + from hopkins onwards - 19 wins / 14 defeats / 2 draws
the defeats have come against people of the level of ottke, woods, shieka, gonzales, harmon, branco, vanderpool, Kiwanuka, sosa

pascal
prime weight - 175
fought hopkins - 175
considering hopkins age, this is a good victory at the 2nd time of asking against an opponent that was beaten much more convincingly by carl froch.




you look at this and think that hopkins best win were against

- trinidad - a welterweight who's best victory at middleweight or above was against joppy (who has an extremely poor winning resume)

- tarver - an extremely overated light heavyweight who was weight drained after filming rocky

you have to score hopkins high for longjevity but there have been 8 occasions where hopkins has stepped into the ring and not been good enough to win the fight. do these type of victories really warrant hopkins being put on the same level as manny paquiao, a fighter that has beaten morales, barrera, marquez, de la hoya, hatton, cotto, de la hoya, margarito during an 8 weight span.

the only conclusion i can come up with is that anyone who wants to put hopkins on the same tier as pacquiao is clearly delusional.