Do you believe Alex Ariza supplies his clients with PEDs?

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  1. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    No, just a bunch of fans looking to discredit Pacquiao.
     
  2. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah I dont see that as meaning anything. I know what that substance is, why it was banned and what it does.

    Its not a "PED"

    It is just an "energy supplement" that was OTC forever, until there were a couple training deaths in the US military that could be partially attributed to it. The DOD banned it, and thus athletic bodies followed suit. It was banned for safety/liability reasons not because of any performance enhancement.
     
  3. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A stimulant doesn't enhance your performance?
     
  4. speedsterchris

    speedsterchris Active Member Full Member

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    Ariza is not supplying anyone with any shakes, not even Manny. You think Manny would allow Ariza to work with Floyd if he knew Ariza would be giving Floyd the same shakes? Common sense guys.
     
  5. larryx2012

    larryx2012 I AM BETTER THEN YOU Full Member

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    This should be good

    1-floyd fans accused him for years

    2-manny fans defended him for years
     
  6. speedsterchris

    speedsterchris Active Member Full Member

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    I do agree with boxing master here. *****s were all about the Ariza shakes for Manny, but no Ariza shakes for Floyd? Explain?
     
  7. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This particular one wasnt banned for such. Like I said it was OTC for years, the banning IIRC came about because of safety concerns. It apparently raised your heart rate, but so does a can of Red Bull.

    Personally I wonder about that whole episode anyhow, it just seems off.
     
  8. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DMAA is banned as a performance enhancer because it is. You anecdote about safety is a non sequitur because it seems impossible for you to grasp that it can be both performance enhancer and unsafe.
     
  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know, nor does anyone else on here.
     
  10. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    technically these supplements aren't PEDs because none of them are on any banned substance list, but yes, he's probably juicing his clients
     
  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Do you believe Ariza just leaves a quarter under a fighters pillow like the tooth fairy???:patsch
     
  12. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFLMAO OK Mr Einstein we believe that :rofl ROFLMAO
    One born every minute
     
  13. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you are going to attack me at least understand the difference between a non sequitur and a false dichotomy.

    Now, I related from memory the history of the substance. I dont recall any performance enhancing concerns ever being an issue.
    If you wish to link more in depth answer, by all means feel free.

    Or, you can keep embarrassing yourself by displaying a snotty attitude and lack of education.
     
  14. acr347

    acr347 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I do... But don't think he has the chemical wizardry of memo.
     
  15. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    N0, just special shakes with n0 undetectables.
    :patsch