Do you believe Pacquiao is a drug cheat?

Darni, I really can't believe we're even debating this. People's reluctance toward rigourous drug testing in boxing astounds me.

My responses are below.

Why should Manny take extra drug tests for the Floyd fight?

Why not?
It's one of the biggest fights of the decade. Drugs are banned and Manny says he doesn't take any. Given the way Manny has come up in weight classes and mantained his power & speed, It's not inconceivable that he is using drugs (that is not to say he must be taking drugs, but it does raise the valid question - Alex Ariza has himself said that what Manny has done is a result of him being a "freak of nature"). What's wrong in Floyd insisting in rigourous drugs testing where both fighters submit themselves to drugs testing that other athletes commonly subject themselves to at the highest level of sport?

Does this mean every fighter has to take these extra drug tests from now on?

I think a fight of this magnitude and scale should have the most rigourous drugs testing enforced. Rules are rules and they should be enforced.

It's a shame that Olympic style drug testing is not made mandatory for all World Title fights.

Does this mean Floyd has no faith in boxing states (U.S) drug testing?

Only floyd can answer that, but from many posts I have read it seems clear that there are (perceived or not) flaws and limitatations in the standard Nevada state commission drugs testing process.

Floyd has asked for drugs testing to be done in line with US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) guidelines.

Floyd said it would be a easy fight for him, so why is he now demanding extra tests from the smaller guy?

Your question is based on a false premise. Floyd has said that both he and Manny should be subjected to the same rigourous random drugs testing.

This isn't about making the smaller guy do extra tests.

When people look at this objectively, Floyd's intentions notwithstanding, what Floyd has suggested is not in itself a bad thing. I think people are just annoyed that the request has come from Floyd and therefore must be 'an outrageous demand' which should be rebelled against for no other reason that Floyd suggested it. Grow up kids!

 

You say 'rules are rules' but they are the rules and guidelines Pacquiao has always adhered to and always come up clean. What Mayweather actually wants is a new set of rules for this fight. Imagine a team telling the FA they won't play another team unless they do the drug testing to THEIR own standards

 

It's got nothing to do with "growing up". I think people are just pissed off that it's Floyd (surprise, surprise) causing this circus.

 

Totally agree :good

Sounds crazy but in effect that is what they are trying to do.

 

There is alot of hipocrisy going on with GBP with this case.
Yes i believe pac should take the test, mainly just to shut that slabbering fool mayweather snr up BUT have people forgotten Mosley v judah??

Schaeffer(mr money maker) reufsed point blank to Mosley having blood tests before the judah fight as he felt Mosley had taken all the tests the Nevada commission had asked for and as such why should he have to be taken further!

THUS DESPITE THE BLATANT FACT THAT MOSLEY WAS A CHEATER!!

Surely if golden boy/mayweather are that serious about blood tests clearing up the sport, then surely Mosley v Berto should be first in line for this new rule...Somehow i cant see this happening!

 

heh...you got me - I should have been clearer.

What I mean't by saying "rules are rules" is that the use of drugs in boxing is banned. - That's the rule.

Given this fact, there is nothing wrong in ensuring that such a rule is adhered to.

Also, I think it's misleading to suggest drugs testing is being done to "Floyd's standards" - he is merely asking that they are done in line with USADA guidelines, which are much more stringent than standard boxing drugs testing and are commonly adhered to by athletes at the highest level of sport.

 

Mayweather isn't saying he wants new rules but stricter rules. Given the subject matter there really shouldn't be any issue with this.

Your example doesn't really work because this is boxing and we don't really have organisations running everything. Floyds simply adding to the commissions testing and they've got no issue with that, its Pac who has his knickers in a twist.

 

There are conflicting reports from doctors as to whether these testings are even any more useful.

Problem is its hardly a noble crusade on Mayweather's part. He didn't ask for this in his 40 other fights not least the last cherrypicked outing against Juan Manuel Marquez. Had he actually expressed concerns in the past he wouldn't be coming across as a whining little girl right about now. All it comes across as is the Mayweather's being a bunch of bitches and unaccepting of the fact a fighter dares be as good as them.

 

Pacquiao has his knickers in a twist about nothing. Everybody can see Pacquiao will accept the fight on NORMAL boxing conditions just like he's accepted every other challenge. It's Mayweather going out of his way to make a complete arse out of proceedings because of his and his crackhead fathers paranoia.

 

First of all I would like to thank you for your in depth answers.

I am just going to make a few small points to your answers. I think this extra drug testing demand from Floyd's camp for this fight cannot be a one off, it has to become the normal testing procedure for all fights, not just a demand from our self made 'KING OF BOXING' Floyd Mayweather Jr to when it suits him.

Floyd thinks the world is made about him, well guess what Manny is also a very big star and does not need him if he wants to play his now very low and classless games.

Manny should just quit boxing and a run for president in his country, there is nothing left for him in boxing.

 

Mate, he should just do the ****ing tests and get on with it.

The fans want to see this fight :good

 

One of them should just man up. Pac should just jump through Floyd's hoops or Mayweather should show a bit of warrior spirit for the first time in years and get into the ring without every demand in his favour. I can't imagine Marvin Hagler up in arms about some bull**** like this. I'd welcome either.

 

From a boxing fan point of view, I agree, still love to see the fight, and pick Mr Mayweather to win. :good

 

normal boxing conditions aren't the strictest conditions available so why is it so wrong to want stricter testing especially given how many athletes take drugs and how many new drugs seem to be entering the market. dope testing in sports in general is ****. what floyd is proposing should be mandatory. floyds wearing 8 oz reyes and fighting at 147 like pac wanted so whats the big deal if pac gets 2 random occasions to draw blood. hardly the end of the world.

pacs ****ed this up, pure and simple.

 

What's wrong is the Mayweather family dragged Pacquiao's name and achievements through the mud by accusing him of this with NO proof. Not one single shred of proof. That's Mayweather Sr, Roger and now what is being inferred by Mayweather is perfectly obvious since he's never asked this in the past. That's whats wrong.

Now they want him jumping through hoops. I'd be exactly like they are, bitter and resentful and not at all wanting to accomodate their paranoia.