Do you believe Pacquiao is a drug cheat?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by safc1990, Dec 23, 2009.


  1. kidgloves

    kidgloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    FFS. He's a SE Asian dude who tend to be slightly built. PAC started his career as a very thin boxer which you would see if you watch his earlier career. He's bulked up with the help of modern diets and training.
    What's the point in taking a test the day before? Don't the cheats do it as a training aid then drop off as the event nears.
    Stinks off hype to me.
     
  2. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Haha. I think he's taken exception to some of my Mayweather comments which is fair enough, I have been a little churlish. It's no coincidence though, that as soon as Mayweather returns we're subjected to this circus, which is what annoys me. I'll lay off the Floyd bashing though, it's not very constructive.
     
  3. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I'm sorry, but in any other sport this argument just would not fly. Usain Bolt says to the tester, sorry mate but if I give you a sample it will spoil my Karma for the race ...he would be out on his ear.

    Having said that, people can have their suspicions, but you cannot answer yes without evidence....so, no, he isn't a drugs cheat
     
  4. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    That would be superb for the sport, a proven drugs cheat against a suspected drugs cheat...only in boxing :-(
     
  5. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    :lol:

    Nice one Ice that is funny
     
  6. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think the fight will go ahead but Floyd knows it's a no win situation,he's said so in interviews.
    Would you give him more credit for fighting Mosley?
     
  7. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    My real concern about Pac, and Khan for that matter, is the presence of Trevor Graham in the Roach set-up. Graham has significant form when it comes to training/coaching drugs cheats
     
  8. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Who believes now that Floyd has missed the boat a little with his career. The best fights out there for him now are tainted somewhat.......

    Cotto - 2 losses since Floyd retired and those two losses have been the equivalant to around 5 normal losses. Nobody can believe Cotto will ever go on to great things now. Those losses would have took so much from him

    Mosley - Way too old now for Floyd to be given full credit.

    Margharito - Out of action for a year which could hurt him and will anybody be prepared to give him a chance now ??

    Berto - Isn't on the same level as the other guys.

    Williams - Moved up 2 weights now. Surely he wont ever get to Welter again ?

    Pac - For as good as he is, WHEN Floyd beats him - He will go back to being a little man who'd done so well just to be a champ at the weight in the first place. He was 'never big enough to be hanging with Floyd'
     
  9. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    I probably would give him more credit for fighting Shane. I think it's a very tough fight for him. He would get a lot of credit from me for fighting either of them though, even if he loses.
     
  10. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Cotto I agree with but the rest depends on how harsh you want to be.

    Mosley, if he destroys Berto, I'd give him full credit as he looked amazing against Margarito.

    Margo, depends how he comes back.

    Berto, if he looks good beating Mosley will announce himself on the elite stage.

    Williams. As you say, if he has to kill himself to make 147 then it won't be a good win. But if Floyd went to 154 and beat him, it would be a huge win imo.

    Pac. I certainly wouldn't be a revisionist here and would give him his props as Manny has been on fire recently.
     
  11. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    I think Mosley may get beat here. He looked pure crap against Mayorga because of the lay off he'd had. Then when he only had 3/4 months off he pumelled Margs. I fear the layoff at his age is gonna hurt him again and Berto doesn't have that 'bravado' to fight the way Mayorga had and isn't as crazy either.

    Margs is still a decent win but he needs a big win before to boost his profile again if the win was to look good for Floyd which leaves us half a year down the line at least.

    Williams would be the best win out of the lot for him but unfortunatley for us isn't an attraction outside of the sport, which is what Floyd seems to be angling for these days
     
  12. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Steroids don't improve your chin
     
  13. THE KNUCKLE

    THE KNUCKLE RIP YER HEID AFF Full Member

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    EVEN IF HE WAS A STEROID TAKER AND HIS BEST BUDDY KHAN WAS IN THE RING TO HELP HIM,FLOYD STILL WINS EASILY,IMO,THE GUYS AN ABSOLUTE GENIUS AND DOESNT GET THE CRED HE DESERVES,,,,,MONEY KO PAC INSIDE 5:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup
     
  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Is this true? Source of his involvement in both?

    Interesting info if true.
     
  15. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    It's proven over Mosleys career his worst performances are when he takes a layoff of over 6 months.

    This fight will be 371 days on from him beating Margo. Also we have to take into account that he fought a man who was struggling to lose the weight and that fight was announced over a month before the bout and also the handwraps situation affected Margo but in saying that Mosley had the beating of him but i feel the performance is a bit overrated when looking in depth.

    His plus point in this bout is Berto hasn't met anyone of his standard nor has he looked great at world level but also Naazim Richardson in his corner. Gonna be interesting to see. I noticed HBO have filmed a face off with these two like Pacquaio-Cotto.