Do you blame Maskaev for wanting the typical 75%-25% split?

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  1. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    It seems fair but I just hate him so much I can't take his side.

    Maskeav sucks!!!!!!!!
     
  2. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    I do because he's directly responsible for Peter being out of action for this entire year.

    He and his camp attempted to negotiate with Vitlay, that wasn't Sam's fault, that was Rappaport, Maskaev and Vitlay.

    For whatever reason Sam had to fight for the mandatory twice. That may or may not have something to do with camp Maskaev but for whatever it's worth Sam deserves to get paid.

    Time is money, especially when you are a boxer because you have to stay in shape. As far as camp Peter knew they were going right after a title post-Toney. No break time right back in the gym. Trainers have to get paid, managers, etc. At least 6 of the past 7 months have been drained by Maskaev and his people alone.

    I feel no sympathy for them. If Rappaport wasn't such a stupid son of a ***** Maskaev wouldn't be in this position. He would have had a 75-25 split had he just taken the fight instead of Okhello. Granted he had the right to an optional defense, but knowing what WBC was doing makes him an accomplice to his own demise.

    And Rappaport knew again the 55-45 split back when the purse bid was won months ago. Again, no sympathy for the devil.
     
  3. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He is at the end of his career. Why should'nt he negotiate hard and get what money he can for himself and his family? Boxing is a tough sport. Careers are short. You got to make the money when you are in a position to.
    I would not fault any man for that.
     
  4. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The WBC is more responsible than anyone for the BS with Vitali. But even then, remember that the Peter camp was offered 2.5 million to step aside for the possible Vitali/Maskaev fight, and he ALSO would've been offered a 50/50 split to face the winner, so it's not like anyone's been THAT unfair to Sam Peter. That would've been a pretty ****ing sweet deal had they accepted, but unfortunately they didn't so.. eh.
     
  5. Shpion

    Shpion IDF Full Member

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    Here we go again. It is solely WBC fault for creating titles like Emeritus and they should be fully responsible, paying OM the difference of the customary split.
     
  6. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    The WBC stepped aside on the issue.

    Camp Peter DID step aside on the promise of getting additional money from their mandatory challenge.

    Then Vitlay and Maskaev fruited around with each other months and months and then called it quits.

    Who is supposed to pay for the months Sam was out? The months that his mandatory challenge could have come and gone? That is one man alone who is responsible and that is Oleg Maskaev.

    The WBC is not gonna pony up cash on a decision that had nothing to do with them. Maybe it is a bit harsh but that is life. Had Maskaev just defended against Sam in the first place there would be no issue.
     
  7. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    The WBC did not tell Maskaev to run away from his mandatory to go fight Vitlay. He made that choice on his own. And when the **** fell through months later he didn't want to endure the purse penalty laid out in front of him.
     
  8. Shpion

    Shpion IDF Full Member

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    The WBC created the whole mess by promissing Vitaly an imediate title shot- Emeritus, in case of his comeback. So Maskaev tried to get the fight with the much bigger draw - Klitschko than no draw - Peter, to cash out before his retirement, who can blame him for that?
     
  9. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Actually, no.. they didn't step aside. They said they would step aside on the conditions that they got more than 2.5 mil, which is ridiculous so Klitschko bowed out of the situation and said he would fight the winner of Maskaev/Peter.

    And not only that but.. 2.5 million would've been more than enough to hold Peter over for the months out. And the WBC didn't even offer him the money, Klitschko's camp did. Here..

    The Las Vegas Journal Review is reporting that Samuel Peter has rejected Vitali Klitschko’s offer of $2.5 million to step aside and allow Klitschko to fight Oleg Maskaev for the WBC Heavyweight Title. Peter would also get an immediate title shot against Klitschko directly after.

    The WBC has refused to make a decision involving the dispute and has instead ordered a mediation between the three parties. It was at the meeting that Peter rejected Klitschko’s inital offer…

    Peter’s promoter Dino Duva said that although Peter rejected the offer, a more lucrative one might change his mind:

    “This is a business and you never say never,” Duva said. “But Samuel’s focus is on getting the title shot and winning the belt. Realistically, we’ll consider all options, but for us to consider (stepping aside), it would have to be very, very lucrative and there would have to be strict time deadlines when Maskaev-Klitschko would occur and then when the fight between Sam and the winner would occur.”
     
  10. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Which by the way, I'll say it yet again for you all to read.

    RAPPAPORT KNEW OF THE 55-45 SPLIT MONTHS AGO AT THE PURSE BID.

    Rappaport then got on that plane and took off, knowing full well that he A) lost the purse bid and B) his man would get 55%.

    What Rappaport and Maskaev are now doing is EVASIVE ***** MANUVERING, attempting yet again to cite an objection with another phase of the process.

    Next thing they will do is call the fight off a week before the actual bell rings. Or the night of. Who really knows with the way these fruity eastern-euros think. He may even be taking plays from Vitlay's playbook on how to avoid a mandatory.
     
  11. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't really blame him, but I just want this damn fight going. The WBC Title is in an unholy quagmire at the moment.
     
  12. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think he know he aint gone beat peter so why not get as much as he can for the whooping he is about to take from sam.i would do the same.
     
  13. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    This is irrelevant. The man who holds the title is Maskaev, NOT Klitschko. It is not his offer to extend.

    The fight fell through anyways and do you think the word of mouth held by Klitschko means **** after the fact? It doesn't. Vitlay's word is meaningless in this sport.

    And all those months of posturing by those two buffoons meant that Sam was sitting on the sideline. That is Maskaev's fault. He could have very easily told Klitschko to wait his turn. Instead he fell for Klitschko's empty word and is paying the price for it. Not the WBC's fault.
     
  14. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What difference does that make? 2.5 million is 2.5 million....

    And some of you are putting Maskaev down for being nard-nosed about the money, yet this is exactly what the Peter camp is doing at this very moment.
     
  15. Shpion

    Shpion IDF Full Member

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    You cannot post clean, ah? You are pathetic piece of ****.