Do you blame Maskaev for wanting the typical 75%-25% split?

I just explained it to you.

Vitlay has absolutely no reason nor guarantee that he will actually pay the 2.5 million for Sam Peter to step aside.

They accept it, but then negotiations fall through. Vitlay has no contractual obligation to pay Sam Peter for stepping aside. Surely, unless he is a ******, a contractual obligation would become null and void should negotiations fail between him and Maskaev.

Which is exactly what happened. End of story : Vitlay suffers no financial loss after months of holding up the WBC title yet again, and holding up both Maskaev and Peter.

The WBC, citing that Maskaev and Rappaport have cost Sam Peter months where he could have fought, citing the payments he has had to make to his people, steps in and remedies the situation. The man who was responsible directly for the interruption in original proceedings was Maskaev. The man who ultimately signs the contract or not is Maskaev.

It is his fault. Like it or not that is life. And that is the business end of the sport.

 

Be as it may, Vitlay is an entire SACK of **** and Maskaev isn't looking that good either right now.

Not very good representation for that part of the world to be sure.:hi:

 

Right. Peter has beaten Toney, and that's the entire jist of his heavyweight career, period.

Not only has Oleg KOed top ten heavies, he's even sent one in particular out of the ring and onto the cold concrete floor.
:good

 

If Klitschko offered Sam Peter 2.5 million to step aside for a TITLE SHOT then yes, a contract would've definitely had been signed. I don't understand how you could think otherwise.

You just said Vitali was holding up the WBC title, so I'm still not sure how this could be Maskaev's fault. Vitali came out of retirement and shoved his way back into the title picture and was waving money in everyone's face, and the WBC was sitting back and allowing it all to go down. You can't blame Maskaev for showing some interest in the offers.

 

If 75% to the champion or tittle holder (what ever you want to call him) and 25% to the chalenger is the standard than Maskaev has every right to ask for those terms.

 

I am not sure if to call you a plain racist or plain stupid. I know very little about OM but Vitaly who is actively involved in UNESCO and donates millions of dollars out of his fund to kids in Africa, Latin America and other parts of the 3rd world can hardly be called a "SACK of ****" and a bad represantative of the E.Europe. I am sure you hold your master don king at the highest standards though.:hi:

 

I said if there were a contract then yes there would be ways out of paying that 2.5 million. Why are you dancing around the issue? Vitlay has to pay Sam Peter NOTHING for the months he held this up. And he gets away with it LEGALLY.

Be less dense please.

It is Maskaev's fault because he pursued the damn fight! Why don't you get that? If the WBC had mandated he drop negotiations with camp Peter and immediately negotiate with Vitlay then yes, the WBC would be directly responsible.

That is not what happened though. With the negotiations falling through Vitlay is cleared of any financial obligations. And that leaves one man. Maskaev. The man who initially was responsible for this in the first place.

This isn't rocket science.

 

You can call me Sally if it does anything for ya. I don't really care.

Fact of the matter is this is boxing and the man is not good for the sport. He did a number on that title when he ran from Rahman for nearly a year, and decided to interject his sorry ass into the picture again this year, with zero positive results.

And now Maskaev is taking his lead, the piece of **** he is.

 

Why are you bothering with this *******? I think his above comment concludes what he thinks about the E.European people, based on which he makes his opinion.

 

No, that's not what you said..

They accept it, but then negotiations fall through. Vitlay has no contractual obligation to pay Sam Peter for stepping aside. Surely, unless he is a ******, a contractual obligation would become null and void should negotiations fail between him and Maskaev.

You claimed that Vitali would have no contractual obligation for Sam Peter stepping aside, and you're accusing me of dancing around the issue?

Everything I'm saying is factual. Sam Peter should've accepted the offer of 2.5 million. And if he's bold enough to turn down THAT kind've offer, then he must not be as bad off as people think.

Hold it now.. don't forget that Sam Peter ALSO showed interest in Vitali's offer, but decided to turn it down. He pursued the offers at hand just as much as Maskaev. And the Peter camp can make **** a lot easier on themselves if they just accept the STANDARD split for a title shot. Their stubborness is what's contributing to Maskaev's stubborness to sign the dotted line.

 

You are. Re-read both quotes you just posted and figure it out. You do actually understand English yes?

1. Vitlay can make whatever promise of cash he wants.

2. If there is a contract, it becomes VOID when negotiations fall through.

3. The negations fell through. Go back to #2.

Not hard to understand now is it?

What 2.5 million does Vitlay owe Sam Peter now that there is no fight? Do you honestly think he was gonna pay him without a fight? There was NO GUARANTEE.

CAMP PETER DID NOT STOP NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN VITLAY KLITSCHKO AND OLEG MASKAEV. THEY BROKE OFF NEGOTIATIONS THEMSELVES.

There, now you have no excuse to continue this dance of yours.

No, the stubbornness of Camp Maskaev is what has brought all of this out. Sam Peter does not have to accept anyone's promise. Including the worst promise from an untrustworthy offerer.

 

Newsflash, a contract IS a guarantee. :good

And no, negotiations NEVER fell through, Maskaev still wanted to fight Vitali.

At this point you're pretty much throwing **** at the wall and seeing what'll stick.

Be that as it may, Maskaev is the champion. Sam Peter has accomplished nothing more than Maskaev, and therefore Maskaev deserves the standard split. Plain and simple.

 

Newsflash. IT IS NOT A GUARANTEE. Or do you not know what a condition is?

They called off negotiations. Go look it up. Rappaport was tired of Vitlay wanting more and more time, and they told him to go **** himself.

No at this point I've pretty much brought you up to date on REALITY, abiet kicking and screaming.

Now that we've figured out how YOU feel on the subject. Lets take a look at reality.

1. Maskaev is directly responsible for camp Peter being sidelined for months now.

2. The purse for this fight is 55-45% MANDATED BY THE WBC on a ruling that Maskaev has held this up and cost Sam Peter money. The right thing was done.

3. Your personal feelings were not considered in this decision.

 

I don't and neither do you, because neither of us have seen the contract. :good

They called off negotiations when Peter refused the step-aside money.

It's funny how you repeatedly refuse to acknowledge that Peter ALSO took interest in Vitali's offers, and would have accepted them yet wanted more than the 2.5 million offered. Talk about reality.

Try not to be so biased towards Peter and look at the ENTIRE picture rather than one side of it.

 

That is absolutely false. A "voluntary" defense never goes to purse bid. Only a "mandatory" challenger can force a purse bid.