Do you consider Floyd a H2H GOAT?

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  1. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Does he have an argument as one of the best head-to-head matchup fighters in the weight classes he fought in? I feel like he’s usually viewed through the lens of his full career rather than how he’d do in hypothetical matchups like you see made with a lot of other greats of the sport.
     
    MixedMartialLaw, Sep 23, 2025 at 12:27 PM
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  2. Reallymakesmethink

    Reallymakesmethink Member Full Member

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    Yes
     
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  3. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I consider SRL a head to head GOAT. The fact Duran beat him at 147 tells me no fighter is unbeatable if matched properly. Floyd included. For me, Pacquiao beats him if they fight after Cotto

    Edit. I also think Hearns stops him
     
    tee_birch, Sep 23, 2025 at 12:36 PM
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  4. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No.
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    One of them he's an extreme stylistic nightmare for damn near any style because he was so complete with very few flaws.
     
    Pimp C, Sep 23, 2025 at 1:44 PM
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  6. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    No
     
    Usyk is the best, Sep 23, 2025 at 1:48 PM
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  7. LoveThis

    LoveThis Sweet Science Full Member

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    H2h Greatest of all time? In welter?
    He is in the discussion. And very few others are. But it's not obvious enough to really call him the one goat above all others
     
    LoveThis, Sep 23, 2025 at 2:52 PM
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  8. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends on the weight class. Definitely at super featherweight.
     
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  9. Bigplatts

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    He has to be in the conversation for it. People criticise some of his career choices but even with some fights not happening he still has the best resume of all the fighters who retired undefeated (Ward, Calzaghe, Marciano, Lopez etc.). To be honest he's got a better resume than all of them combined. If he wasn't one of the best fighters h2h he would've been beaten by at least one of the people he fought.
     
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  10. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    130 and 135 for sure. I think Pernell and Duran are bad style fights for Floyd but the same can be said for Floyd against them. His reach, sneaky power and reflexes are just bad news all around for everyone at the weights IMO
     
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  11. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    He is certainly one of the greatest of all time. I'm not really sure how someone could argue with that.
     
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  12. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Depends on the weight class. He was absolutely freakish at 130. Even at higher weights like 147+ he would compete on sheer skill alone.
     
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  13. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He looked absolutely amazing against Corrales. It was a performance on par with Ali against Williams, as in, how does ANYBODY beat that guy? Was like a prime Michael Jordan playing 1-on-1 against a high school player.
     
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  14. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There may be an argument at 130. But, I would likely not have him even in the top 20 at Lightweight. And, not in the top 10 at any other weight.
     
    Smokin Bert, Sep 24, 2025 at 8:05 AM
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  15. Hi-Tech

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    Yehh either him or Arguello gotta be for super featherweight. No wonder Floyd said he was his dream match.
     
    Hi-Tech, Sep 24, 2025 at 8:13 AM
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