Do you consider Fury toying with 10 year unbeaten Klitschko one of the best achievements in boxing ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Mar 4, 2021.


Is this a top 10 achievement ?

Poll closed Apr 8, 2022.

  1. Yes

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    24.5%

  2. No

    37 vote(s)
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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This happened pre Usyk so shut the hell up. You don't have a clue, if anything you're the one switching narratives now that Crawford made you look stupid. I disparaged his bad performance and the stain on his legacy against an old ass mma fighter right after he sold out in 2023.

    Your dumbass is claiming Ngannou would beat the likes of Anderson, Jalolov and Sanchez for damage control. Ngannou would get flatlined by Makhmudov. He's not beating any fringe contenders or even prospects. He's trash and yet Fury had his hands full because he's shot to bits
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Oct 7, 2025 at 8:48 PM
    MarkusFlorez99, Oct 7, 2025 at 8:48 PM
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I don't care when it happened, you said Ngannou was a threat then walked it back when AJ beat him.


    I'm the guy that said Ngannou would give Fury fits actually. Then he did.
    I'm also the guy that said Bakole would stop Anderson. Then he did.
    And that Kabayel would stop Makhmudov, Sanchez and Zhang. Then he did, thrice.
    I also predicted Usyk would beat AJ and Fury.... in 2014.:lol:


    So... I'm the last person YOU OF ALL ****ING PEOPLE should be calling a dumbass.:lol:


    Here's the difference between you and I. You're full of ****..... and I know my ****.:deal:
     
    CST80, Oct 7, 2025 at 9:03 PM
    CST80, Oct 7, 2025 at 9:03 PM
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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wrong again. I walked it back the moment Fury struggled, because i knew then Fury sold out. I said word for word that the top 30 should lick their lips at fighting Ngannou in October 2023, before the aj fight, because Francis is a trash boxer. I talked bad about Makhmudov for years and even back then I favored Makhmudov to FLATTEN Ngannou, because he would. Makhmudov would send Ngannou to the morge if the got in a boxing ring.

    I said time would reveal how bad Ngannou actually is and I was proven right. Joshua is not good enough to knock out any top contender within 2 rounds. He's never done it, he couldn't even do it with Eric Molina, yet he did against Ngannou no problem, because he was fighting a bum boxer !! I knew he was nowhere near world level before joshua drilled him
    Fury is damn near shot
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Oct 7, 2025 at 9:30 PM
    MarkusFlorez99, Oct 7, 2025 at 9:30 PM
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Frank Sanchez Simping, I can't think of anything more pathetic.

    Yep I backed Saunders to beat Canelo and he was schooling him up until the freak accident. And? He performed a hell of a lot more impressively than your old buddy Frank did against Kabayel.

    Gassiev **** the bed against another southpaw. I guess that means AJ, Chisora and Fury''s stock goes up, and by default, Usyk's wins over them.:rolleyes:

    I have no shame in picking Ngannou over Sanchez, Anderson or Makhmudov. The first two he beats with ease, Makhmudov is 50/50.
     
    CST80, Oct 7, 2025 at 9:38 PM
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course you don't feel shameful, you'll do anything for damage control. Ngannou is a goddamn semi retired mma fighter and would get the stuffing beat out of him by any top 30 heavyweight boxer including Tony Yoka. Joshua has never blown away a fringe contender that quickly, Ngannou is not even gatekeeper level
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Oct 7, 2025 at 9:42 PM
    MarkusFlorez99, Oct 7, 2025 at 9:42 PM
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Boy... you assume a hell of a lot based on two matches at Heavyweight don't you? The reality is, you have no ****ing idea what you're talking about. You have such a hate hard on for AJ and now Usyk, that you'll say anything to denigrate their wins. You've practically been in a frenzy of hate since the Bud-Canelo match. Spinning like an absolute madman. Get a grip and rein it in.
     
    CST80, Oct 7, 2025 at 9:49 PM
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't hate Usyk, he's a top 10 heavyweight oat and h2h top 5. This is your perception because I'm not buying your BS. No matter how good you think Fury and Joshua are achievements wise they can't lace Canelo boots and Fury was literally the same age as Canelo coming off a trash performance against a low level opponent that is the reality of the situation.

    So much stock into this argument of size difference when a Fury 2 years from his prime went life and death with Cunningham who was 210 pounds. Had Fury dominated a world class small heavyweight/cruiser then I'd be inclined to agree but it's never happened. Fury called Cunningham so difficult to deal with because he was small and slippery. He said it himself
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Oct 7, 2025 at 10:00 PM
    MarkusFlorez99, Oct 7, 2025 at 10:00 PM
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  8. SouthpawsRule

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    Canelo was COMFORTABLY ahead of Saunders on points and it wasn’t a freak accident, he landed one of the best counter-uppercuts I have ever seen in my life.
     
    SouthpawsRule, Oct 7, 2025 at 10:48 PM
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  9. LoveThis

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    Fury's win against a great, ten year reigning champion, being on the way up himself and largely unproven, starting with psyching klitschko out in the build-up and going on to control the fight, having understood the strengths and weaknesses of his opponent with vastly superior experience will always be special to me.

    No matter what kind of an ass-hat fury turned out to be.

    Obviously reminds one of Ali vs Liston no matter how the fight looked. Only Ali couldn't see for one round and Liston was more on the offense and Ali's style is the most beautiful ever in heavyweight if not all weights.

    Only caveat with fury's win for me is the doping question.
     
    LoveThis, Oct 7, 2025 at 11:05 PM
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  10. ellerbe

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    You don’t hate Usyk but you picked Frank ****ing Sanchez to beat him?
     
    ellerbe, Oct 8, 2025 at 4:53 AM
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  11. PrimoGT

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    Klitschko was 39 years old.
    It was an awful fight.
    It was a good achievement, all things considered.
    But not a 'great' historically important one.

    It was a respectable start to a solid 'prime' championship reign from Fury.
    But they never materialized, did it?

    Post-Klitschko heavyweights have been grossly over-rated.
     
    PrimoGT, Oct 8, 2025 at 5:02 AM
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  12. Boxing Gloves

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    Was never toying and was never a schooling, it was a clear win, where both fighters danced around without throwing punches but Wlad won atleast 3 rounds, certainly wasnt a shut out.
     
    Boxing Gloves, Oct 8, 2025 at 5:40 AM
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  13. Stewart Swift

    Stewart Swift New Member Full Member

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    So really, Joshua going life and death with an old Wlad coming off a defeat is a pretty ropey achievement?
     
    Stewart Swift, Oct 8, 2025 at 5:47 AM
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  14. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a good win when he was given little chance. Not sure he toyed with Wlad tho.
    He used his height and reach and Wlad was reluctant to throw. Once things opened up later in the fight Wlad started to look a better fighter but his usual advantages weren't there against Fury and it showed. A quality win on away soil for Fury just a shame he didn't back it up with more.
     
    zulander, Oct 8, 2025 at 7:20 AM
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  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, it's one of the best achievements in boxing BUT only if you just started watching boxing a 5 years ago and know ****all....
     
    The Real Lance, Oct 8, 2025 at 7:31 AM
    The Real Lance, Oct 8, 2025 at 7:31 AM
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