Do you consider Hamed/Barrera a "schooling"?

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  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    ...and that was? :think
     
  2. nickythekid

    nickythekid Active Member Full Member

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    a good, confident fighter against an elite fighter. i havn't the most knowledge, i just say it like i see it
     
  3. widdy

    widdy lancs,where real men live Full Member

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    he was'nt a great boxer,but he made up for that in reflex and awsome power,he banged like a mule holding a sledgehammer.
    i think he knew it was time to quit when his reflexs went
     
  4. nickythekid

    nickythekid Active Member Full Member

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    he could definately punch, just for me when fellows are that loud and lairy i'm waiting for someone to put a stop to it. i've never taken to him, although when he was operating i wasn't a fan of boxing, i've watched some of his fights though
     
  5. HOF

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    It was a complete schooling. When a fighter, who has previously been successful by means of his reflexes and unorthodox style, is comprehensively beaten to the punch over and over again then he has been totally schooled. Warren knew that when Hamed was put in with an elite fighter he would be rumbled as he had no plan B or insitinctive adaptibility there to get him out of trouble in such company.
     
  6. UndisputedUK

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    When Hamed was a champion and Junior "Poison" Jones beat Barrera, Hamed went on to tell everyone that he would have beaten Barrera anyway.
    A number of years later Hamed's adventure came to an end. All the hype, belittling of opponents etc was exposed by someone he would have sparked out. Barrera didn't only beat Hamed, he beat him over twelve rounds and effectively ended the career of someone who was never going to be beat.
     
  7. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    No it wasn't a schooling and whether you were a fan of him or not, by the time the Barerra fight came long he'd left Ingle, his head was in the clouds, surrounded by groupies, wasn't putting the graft in the gym and his hands were ****ed.

    With exception to his bad hands, he only had himself to blame.

    A schooling = Calzaghe v Lacy.
     
  8. bbjc

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    Tbf hatton didnt stop trying all night he went all in whereas naz looked a bit subdued throughout.
     
  9. N17

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    No, because Naz was competitive even though he lost the majority of the rounds. Barrera was so disciplined and controlled, he boxed incredibly well that night.

    Naz always had that power, so you couldn't take your eyes off the fight,even up until the final bell you could write Naz off at the time, now looking back on the fight you might say "no it was over after 8" but back then Naz could produce something special out of nothing.

    But it was a lesson for Naz though, one he didn't want to learn, he retired soon afterwards.


    Naz either didn't have the desire to come back and prove himself elite or maybe he didn't believe he could, I don't no know.

    But anyway, I wouldn't consider it a "schooling" compared to some we have seen over the years.
     
  10. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not a schooling, a life lesson.
    Regards,
    Wig
     
  11. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The term "schooling" doesn't really have any kind of accepted definition, so you can call it a schooling if that floats your boat.

    My take is that Barrera had Hamed's number, and was one step ahead for most of the fight. It wasn't exactly a one-sided drubbing though, and Barrera made sure to stick to the gameplan and was respectful of Hamed's power. If it was a complete domination, Barrera would have opened up and tried to get him out of there, like he did with lesser fighters like Paul Lloyd and Frankie Toledo.
     
  12. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hamed did of course fight again, but fair enough there's little point letting facts get in the way of a good story.