Do you consider Hopkins to be legit champion at LHW?

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  1. maximumsg

    maximumsg Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think hopkins intensions are to be the light heavyweight champ, he just wants to fight named apponents to add to his legacy and pocket. But I can't blame him at his age I think all of us would do the same thing. But to answer the question I would say dawson the way he took the belt from whats his name.
     
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  2. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Hopkins is the linear light-heavyweight champion. Its a matter of opinion if you think he's the best.
     
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  3. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We will see after Diaconu. Even if he wins he need to prove himself aganist someone else from the top.
    If he beat anyone from bellow list I can consider him the best LHW at the current time:
    Briggs
    Erdei
    Woods
    Johnson
    Tarver
    Jones
    Hopkins

    just one name above.
     
    Stinky gloves, Sep 2, 2007
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  4. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Yep, thats pretty much it - they are selective in their chosing. I don't blame them, when they are in the twillight of their careers, but I won't hail it either.
     
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  5. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal
     
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  6. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought that there is a basic difference between "linear champion" and "ring champion".
    At the beginning they should be the same, but later ....

    To be linear you should beat the guy who kept the title before but who is not necessery the best at the current time.

    To be the ring champion you should be considered the best ... that was my thought ... but you are saying it isn't.

    So if Hopkins did not beat a true champion (linear champion) and he is not the best one then what is the "ring belt" ...
    is "ring champion" just the most popular one or most famous one or maybe the one who brings the most money?
     
    Stinky gloves, Sep 2, 2007
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  7. Lacyace

    Lacyace Forever Knight Full Member

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    Exactly. Best doesn't mean necessarily champion.
     
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  8. Lostmykeys

    Lostmykeys Active Member Full Member

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    No I don't think he is the legit champ and I am a Hopkins fan.
     
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  9. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Hopkins is the champ. You dont lose your belt after a fight like he did against Winky. He beat the champion at the time in Tarver. So now he is the champion. Its not that difficult.
     
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  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are a millenium behind the rest of us mate.
     
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  11. Motor City Sam

    Motor City Sam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. He beat the champion and has not been beaten in the ring himself. He's still the champion. Everything else is a matter of opinion.
     
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  12. koko of phil

    koko of phil Ring of Fire Resident Full Member

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    Yes Hopkins is legit at LHW. At least not in MW no more, at last. :yep
     
    koko of phil, Sep 3, 2007
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  13. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know Calzaghe is future of LHW division according to you :patsch
     
    Stinky gloves, Sep 3, 2007
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  14. NBT

    NBT Mοderator of Death Full Member

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    Of course not, Hopkins is actually a curse for the LHW division. He isn't lineal, he doesn't wear a legit belt and would lose to a dozer other LHWs right now in my books. Him owning the Ring belt just shows how worthless and biased the Ring ratings are.
     
    NBT, Sep 3, 2007
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  15. Musashi

    Musashi Member Full Member

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    Roy Jones was the Ring Champ. He dominated the division for years, and deserved the Championship. Then he lost to Tarver, who lost the title to Glen Johnson, then Tarver took it back.

    Hopkins clearly "beat the man who beat the man".

    Until Hopkins retires, or loses, he's still the Champ.

    Johnson and Tarver gave up a belt to fight each other, because they understood how meaningless the alphabet soup crooks really were.

    Only The Ring is even trying to fix the mess that is boxing. I don't understand how people can oppose that. Nor do I understand people who give any credit to the alphabet crooks.
     
    Musashi, Sep 3, 2007
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