Do YOU consider Winky Wright an ATG?

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  1. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i think he deserves to be called a great fighter,

    his fights may not have the entertainment of jorge arce or arturo gatti but he with his wins of over mosely, quartey, trinidad and the draw with the bigger taylor makes his claim legin to me.

    what is possibly most underated of winky wright is his wins in the trilogy with bronco mckart. mckart back then was a good solid fighter and was pretty much looked at as the kelly pavlik of 6 years ago who was slick similar to james toney (because of nutural coach bill miller) and had great power. mckart had wins over santos cardona, aaron davis and kenny ellis. the first fight was close but the second and third fights where more clear with winky edging and then stopping the former wbo champion.
     
  2. errsta

    errsta Boxing Addict banned

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    NO. if he beats hopkins, yes.

    As of now, I consider him the most overrated fighter of his era.
     
  3. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am sorry I do not agree about the "we all know he won that fight (Taylor)". I think Taylor did enough to win, IMO.
     
  4. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hes def an ATG, cleaned up 154 when it was the hot division, has been one of the most avoided fighters in recent memory, schooled Trinidad (who many consider an ATG) drew wit Taylor, which many thought he won (including myself) and when he beats Hopkins on July 21st that will be the icing on the cake...
     
  5. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    And even if not...He IS fighting Hop, and we have all seen Winky do his job, hes a technical master, no different than the executioner himself.
     
  6. errsta

    errsta Boxing Addict banned

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    How exactly did he clean up 154?

    He lost to Vasquez, Simon and Vargas. He never fought his contemporaries in Raul Marquez, Ramon Campas, Daniel Santos, David Reid, Kassim Ouma, or Travis Simms - not to mention Oscar de la Hoya - who he turned down a career payday with.

    You can make a good case that he would have beaten those guys, but without fighting them you can't say he cleaned house. All of those guys rank higher than Bronco McKart - who was very competetive with him 2 out of 3 times.

    Mosley was never a true 154 pounder and he fought Trinidad at middle. He has a nice ledger but to insinuate he cleaned up 154 is ignorant.
     
  7. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    He held the ALL THE FOUR titles in Light Middle Weight. It should have been better if he fought a rematch with Taylor and get the title at Middle Weight but he refused. Now he is fighting at a catch weight . . . is that enough for an ATG? :think
     
  8. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Yes.

    His record speaks for itself. I consider him a great 154 pounder and a great fighter in general.
     
  9. pryorgatti

    pryorgatti Active Member Full Member

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    I agree. He is an ATG. Solid comp, and a top 5 EVER head to head at 154
     
  10. Cage

    Cage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ummm yea, because over rated fighters beat people like Mosely and Trinidad. . sure, that makes perfect sense :patsch
     
  11. koko of phil

    koko of phil Ring of Fire Resident Full Member

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    Not yet, but if he goes and overcomes tough and real opponents which will really test his skill, he will.
     
  12. pryorgatti

    pryorgatti Active Member Full Member

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    His skills doesn't need to be tested, he already has proven himself
     
  13. Druid

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    He has certainly proven he can beat people, but is seldom in a truly entertaining fight, I dislike his unwillingness to engage the opponent and his purely defensive style. A good guard and a jab sometimes makes a winner but hardly an ATG. I have no problem with the outcome of the Taylor fight and he should certainly have taken the rematch. I paid for the Tito Winky fight and will never buy another PPV with Winky in the main event, enough said.
     
  14. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yes he is. Great fighter and the only unified jr.middleweight champion in like 15 years or so I'm pretty sure,
     
  15. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    You could say Winky is a borderline ATG.