if he beats hopkins, he has to be considered a alltime great. with mosley, tito and perhaps hopkins, not too many legends can boast of a resume like that.
he has fought the best welterwieghts the best light middlewieghts and now fighting the 3rd best middlewieght ever. the guy doesnt stop fighting. his resume is a really good group julio cesar Vasqueaz was a beast was almost seen as unbeatable up top this point once pernell got to him pernell just didnt brawl with him and humiliated him. winky when he go to him was green when he fought vasquez and was not the fighter you see today he was a normal stand uo boxer with a great jab but low defence compared to now. he came back from this loss galvanised by the vasqueaz fight he fought against mckart a tough tall guy with a generous reach and gave a boxing lesson. he stopped the very likely prospect and the great amatuer boxer adrian dodson on cuts in england had a realy good street fight with harry simon who as his nickname states was aa terminator winky won the later ounds with the constant pressure and awkward jab while harry won but far from dominated the early rounds and was contreversial as the scoring system was not a 10 point system. remember that simon was and still is undefeated to this day and has fought tough opposition...and winky gave him the fight of his career. fought vargas....which even though people say was a robbery people forget how good vargas was in his early career he pushed winky into corners and broke down the defence though he did look awful in the process. ronaled jabbed and combo all night long but it was vargas who was pressing the action. he took kieth mullings apart who was never koed in his career he was dropped but was never hurt and was almost always winning the fight. his long reach for his size made him a formidable opponant he had koed norris and ciarlante (who was a very dominant european champion before hand) and was at a bad dision with castiljo he fought bingham in his hometown of manchester. he fought the tough ans ranked number 6th in the ring magazine robert frazier then after a while he totally outboxed three wieght champion shane mosley. twice though the secound fight was far closer it was ronaled who did the better. gave another boxing lesson to a three time world champion tito trinidad who didnt win a round he gave another boxing lesson to solimon who was ranked number 1 in the rankings had tough fights and was only outhustled by jermain taylor not beaten to the punch. and has just recently totally nullify ike quartey. has won every belt in the diviosn has never been out of the top 5 light middles for 10 years. hard to beat hard to hit clean and will always bee jabbing back
Winky is an ATG what else does he have to prove? Beat Mosley 2x beat Tito beat Vargas and Taylor IMO I mean what else does the man have to do?
I'm right where you're at. He's borderline. Clearly great - but ATG?? Not quite, imo. Like others have said, if he beats Hopkins, I think he squeaks it.
How could Winky NOT be considered an ATG? IF you think he is not than tell me what your criteria is for judging that.
:nut :nut :nut How come Floyd called him out and crawled away from Winky??:huh Answer: cuz that's LOSS #1. Wright is far better than PBF and so are many other fighters who have losses as well, so that means ****. Lets see PBF take a stretch run at the top comp of his ERA, then talk that BS:good
Absolutely no. De hasnt beat any real middleweights. Mosley was best at Lightweight. He beat an overrated Felix Trinidad (best at welterweight). Struggled but won against Soliman (who got blasted away by Mundine).