Do you currently have Calzaghe or Buchanan higher in your British ATG list?

Calzaghe. Better record, better boxer.

 

Dinlow.

 

Calzaghe will take the lead in this poll, most teh Scots have already voted now.

 

You're a f'n '**** yourself.

 

Beating Laguna twice on the road trumps anything that Calzaghe could ever dream of achieving...even taking an ancient and past it Ortiz looks better than anything on Joes slate

 

I knew Ice could be counted on.

Buchanan went to the Lions den time and again and although he lost to one of the greatest fighters of all time at least he fought the guys at his best (at a weight most people would argue he was the greatest ever at).

Fighting a close fight with a Lightweight Duran ( even Losing ) is greater than anything Joe ever did.

 

joe is the best boxer ever to come out the uk

 

Based on what? Even in terms of pure effectiveness I rate Buchanan higher.

 

Best boxer is subjective. Calzaghe's Ring belts at two weights isn't.

 

****ing hell Billy - if you post some of what your smoking to me it will get here for Chrimbo :good

Start with Lennox Lewis at the top and work your way down :deal

As for the question........ Buchanan, pretty clearly.

Calzaghe's record looks great on paper but in terms of substance there ain't a great deal - most of his title defences were against has-beens or never-wheres, as for his later wins, Lacy it could be argued never won another fight bar Manfredo, Hopkins IMO beat him, Jones was irrelevant by that stage, though Kessler is a solid win.

To be perfectly frank, his resume is hardly any better than Ricky Hatton's - take out the two losses and substitute them with wins over, say, Witter and Bradley - who might have been alternate opponents at the time..... I'd say Hatton might edge him out, even though Calzaghe is/was more talented.

Placing Joe at the top is basing an awful lot on assumption rather than fact.

:good

 

Are you actually being serious here?

You are usually a fairly clued up poster in terms of knowledge etc.. but this is just bizzare. Buchanan higher and insulting me? Confirm this isn't a wind up.

 

Not a wind up mate. As good as Joe was, not approaching Buchanan IMO

 

I think I have my list:

1 Bob fitzsimmons
2 Jimmy Wilde
3 Lennox Lewis
4 Ted Kid Lewis
5 Ken Buchanan

Ken just squeezing out Joe at no 5, though it's very close.

 

BUchanan could have made about five hundred WBO defences were it around in his day, and he was allowed to duck Duran, Laguna, Dejesus etc..

then here finally steps up in 1982 well preserved form years of easy fights and secures his legacy with wins over espana, Mancini and a mighty struggle with Arguello that a sizable amount of people thought he lost.

 

Sorry?