Do You Distinguish Between Elite Fighters and A Level Fighters?

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  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I do, because I believe that there are only probably 10-15 elite level fighters in boxing at any point, while there is another group of A level fighters which give competitive fights to the elites.

    For example, a prime Vargas was a perfect example of an A level fighter but not an elite fighter in my system of classification. He gave extreemely competitive fights to elite fighters, but with the exception of his win over Winky he failed to capitalize on his opportunities.

    What is your system of classification for fighters?
     
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  2. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't know.

    This is how I'd grade fighters in their primes:

    A fighters= Mayweather, DLH, Trinidad, Hopkins, Pacquiao

    B+/A- fighters= Casamayor, Corrales, Vargas

    B-/B fighters= Gatti, Jesus Chavez, Raul Marquez
     
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  3. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What would you guys rate Morales at?
     
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  4. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Elite! Look at his resume! Wins over Barrera and Pac, and the list just starts there.
     
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  5. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    I do distinguish between A level fighters and elite fighters, as the opening post said

    Elite= Roy Jones (prime), Bernard Hopkins (prime) FLoyd Mayweather

    A level= Jermain Taylor, Oscar Delahoya, Miguel Cotto

    Its like if you got
    Kobe Bryant
    and then Gilbert Arenas

    while Gilbert is a damn good player, hes no Kobe, but then hes better than a Caron Butler, see what im trying to say
     
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  6. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The most obvious example is.....

    Calzaghe - Elite
    Kessler - Grade A

    :)
     
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  7. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not really, but I definitely distinguish b/w elite and world class fighters
     
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  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Certainly. There are very few elite athletes in any sport. Boxing is no exception.

    It's like this. In the NBA you have all stars (A Level and B+ Level players) then you have All NBA (Elite).

    Guys like PBF, Pacquiao, Calzaghe are elite. Juan Diaz, Chad Dawson, Kessler, etc are A Level, though they could break through to Elite level with big wins.
     
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  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    A fighter: Castillo in his prime.

    Elite fighter: Barrera in his prime
     
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  10. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good i agree with you just wanted to know what people thought.
     
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  11. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    You can't establish someone as elite until they have victories over Grade A opponents. Sorry, Calzaghe doesn't pass that test yet.
     
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  12. Illstate

    Illstate Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think any fighter in the sport is really in a class by himself.
    So I think what most people would call Elite, I would call another A level fighter, and anyone not on that level is B level
     
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  13. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    A Level would be Vernon Forrest to the elite Oscar.
    Just that little extra special something
     
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  14. Tito Time

    Tito Time slayin um Full Member

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    Is that Jermain in your pic?
     
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  15. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Super Elite = B-Hop in his prime

    Elite = B-Hop in his mid to late 30's

    A level = B-Hop now
     
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