Do you feel Pac has used a banned substance?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bill poster, Dec 26, 2009.


  1. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    No. If he ever tests positive, you can forget that I was ever a fan.
     
  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is what it is, however at the end of the day he's responsible for his own life.
     
  3. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    It never would have occurred to me if all this talk hadn't come up. I'm not buying. Pacquiao is a man coming into his 30's. Speaking from experience there are all sorts of natural increases in brawn and physical strength at that threshold.
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It never occurred to me either. I really believe this stems from racism or prejudice against the asian man. If Pac was black, latino, cuban, or white there would not be any questioning of his ability. When he boxes, his biggest weapon is his lack of fear. The guy has no fear. That plus he's got more heart and pure desire to brawl..., people just don't get that.

    Also, we can all see that even Pac has to take rounds off, because he doesn't actually have unlimited stamina. We can also see that there are limits to his power as seen vs odh and cotto. I see a guy that fights with everything on the line everytime he goes out to do his job, unlike a lot of other types of boxers.
     
  5. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes I believe he has, for the simple fact he won't take the Olympic style blood tests. Why would you risk losing 40 million dollars and ruin your rep over Olympic style blood tests if you're clean?
     
  6. bill poster

    bill poster Guest

    Its annoying when people say " he struggled against Marquez and Morales so how comes he knocked out Hatton and Cotto with ease" etc


    Pac is a more complete fighter now
    he was struggling to make the weight against JMM
    Morales is one of the best boxers of his generation
    Pacs speed is a huge advantage at the higher weights


    and lots of other reasons I could mention
     
  7. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah it is a money issue...when he was 15 lol...I am 100% sure he didn't when he was poor and 15 and getting ko'd...now i am def not 100% sure but a simple test of olympic style would eliminate any doubt
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    true.
     
  9. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To answer the question, I will have to go ahead with a resounding YES.... Come on now, after all the different excuses... blood, needle phobia, Arum even said USADA would harrass Pac and that with them there's a lot of paperwork to fill out, thus suggesting other ppl to do the testing (including the NSAC- in which he probably knows 1 or 2 "good friends"). A LOT OF PAPERWORK? WHATTTT?? SOOOOOO, is it the blood/needle/weakening phobias, or is it WHO DOES THE TESTS AND AT WHAT TIMES??? They should take a firm stand as to what is it and stop trying to confuse everybody!
    Anyway, I have never seen somebody get that upset over something so simple. If you r clean, just submit to the damn test like the other part (FMJ) is willing & case closed... Any other agreement just won't make it. Oh, and BTW, what's up with all his fans and even his team crying that he's a fighter that fights "4 his country and for God" so this is so embarrassing 4 him??... Could you imagine if somebody was brought 4 interrogation by the police or by a judge in a court of law and the defendant would try to get away with something like that??? "Well Sir, I have a clean record, never being caught (caught being the keyword) doing anything wrong, and I'm a God fearing, humanity loving, global-warming-foe kind of guy, therefore I think I've proved my innocense"........... YEAH, RIGHT!!!!!! Jails would be empty if we would take everybody by their word.... Everybody that's in jail, @ one point , had a clean record!!
    Yes, I think he's used illegal PEDS. BTW, why should we prove him wrong 4 everybody to believe that he's being doing this?... Why doesn't he prove(s) me/us wrong by taking the random blood tests... it's that easy!!! The one that doesn't have anything to hide, doesn't have anything to fear!!!
     
  10. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's as guilty as the rest of the boxing world. I mean if a baseless accusation can blow up to this proportion, then might as well accuse everyone who didnt go thru this procedure.

    ....or they can do it the traditional way and stop whining.
     
  11. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the question is not whether manny tested positive...it is if people think he is on steroids...we all know he didn't test positive...but thanks for the great feedback
     
  12. El Puma

    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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    I cannot believe some moron pulled the race card......


    The biggest ***** move ever.
     
  13. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ****ING IDIOT thread!

    why don't you test him to find out!

    Oh yeah! He's been tested clean from the beginning! So you can do away with the feeling and have him tested again!
     
  14. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this accusation has not become baseless...it is becoming the biggest story in boxing..noone has pics obviously but him not just complying to a different and more precise drug test will make this a huge issue...noone thinks of any other boxer besides manny as a potential steroid user because i am assuming 99% of boxers would just do the testing for 40 mil,,,but he just won't budge...that is his perogative but he will be scrutinized for it until he just takes the test....that is life when u back out of a 40 mil payday because u don't want to take a simple test
     
  15. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    why doesnt he take the olympic test and find out??? not hard