Do you feel that was a fair stoppage Rahman vs Tua 1?

It was a far more blatant foul than the recent Andre Dirrell debacle. Worse, is that Rahman was outboxing Tua, should have been well ahead on points, and this loss kind of derailed his career for a while. Yes, even the stoppage itself was fishy with Rahman defending himself.

Tua was bad for going for cheap shots after the bell, he tried the same thing when he was frustrated against Chris Byrd. Byrd was able to avoid it though.

 

^^Hammer meet nail^^

Yes, Rahman was jobbed here. The foul after the bell was a huge shot. Under such circumstances, if the rules allow, treat it like a low blow. Give the fighter hit late after the bell up to 5 minutes to recover.

As it was 1 minute was not enough for a somewhat chinny Rhaman to recover, and he lost via stoppage ahead on points. Without the very late punch after the bell, he's a winner 4 out of 5 times with few rounds left in this match.

 

I've seen fighters worse hurt than that and come back, so yes imo it was stopped to early.

 

I thought it was a terrible stoppage at the time ... still do.

 

It evened out for Rahman in the end. He got a premature stoppage over Sanders and somehow walked out of the second Toney fight with an NC.

 

-Premature? Sanders didn't show anything for like 35 seconds, he just covered up while Rahman was clubbing over and over. You can hear..I think it was Stewert saying, "What is Sanders doing?" Eddie Cotton gave him every chance. Not even comparable to the ref jumping in as Tua is completely missing punches in a 8 second flurry...nm Rahman was only trouble because Tua was given a free pass to foul him.
-Rahman was robbed of yet another significant win in the second Tua bout, it was a stinker but Rahman clearly won. Heck, he didn't even get credit for being the first to drop Tua in that one.
-Rahman got jobbed against Toney in the first fight, two judges gave Toney round 12 to rule it a draw, which was a clear Rahman round.

 

Hell no it wasn't, first of all Tua hit Rahman after the bell clearly and Rahman made Tua miss most of that flurry at the end and was schooling Tua easily prior to that.

Why so many on this forum think Tua was some unbeatable god who could beat most HW's in history I do not know.

 

Right because if he was that good, he would have won more.

 

Sanders was covering up an Rahman was missing a bunch of punches. He still might have lost, but the stoppage was at the wrong time.

 

There's no such thing as a perfect stoppage, but Sanders showed nothing for half a minute at least. And despite Sanders having his gloves glued to his head, Rahman's punches were still making contact, so it just looked bad. That's why Stewert is saying "what is he doing?" Sanders really didn't give Cotton a choice.

 

yes.

At the time of the stoppage, he was on ***** street. No way he was going to make it to the end of the round.

You can argue that he should have been given more time to recover after the late hit.

But, it is illogical to use that argument as an argument that it was an unfair stoppage.

The stoppage, itself, was justified.

 

How can you say it was a justified stoppage when Rahman was defending himself, making Tua miss 99% of his shots in the final flurry and was still fairly clear. Tua might well have gone onto stop him in the round, but it was stopped too early IMO

 

I re-watched the 10th round.

I was wrong to say Rahman was on "***** street"

He was not staggering around.

However, he was not throwing punches.

I counted.

He threw at most 3 punches the entire time in the 10th round

He flicks a jab at the very beginning of the round.

Tua backs him into the ropes.

Rahman bobs and weaves, but throws nothing back.

Tua lands a few hard shots and misses quite a few shots.

Rahman finally throws back one or two soft punches.

Tua continues the assault and the ref. stops it with Rahman bobbing and slipping on the ropes.

It is true that Rahman is not badly hurt.

However he gave the impression that he wouldn't or couldn't fight back.

He basically threw nothing the last round.

Maybe he was hoping Tua would gas out and then he would start throwing.

But, you have to give the ref. the impression that you will fight back and Hasim wasn't doing so.

 

The way the bout ended was unsatisfactory. Assimenios handled it badly, in my opinion.

I had Rahman ahead by miles and, whilst there's the theory that Rahman was running out of gas, he was demonstrably able to defend himself at the time of the stoppage.

Good showing from Rahman. Poor show from the referee.