Do you give Leonard or Lewis any credit

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  1. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Active Member Full Member

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    please, you're talking as if mccall has an ounce of a brain. he's a crackhead - his brain like an egg yellow on the frying pan (remember that commercial about what drugs do to your brain?).
     
  2. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    When people quit when they're way ahead, we know it's legit- that's the key difference, when they're behind (and feel they have no chance of winning) they resort to what Michael Johnson did in that 150 metres one-off race against Donovan Bailey. Here's an idea, why don't we all go by what we actually SEE WITH OUR ****ING EYES...always works for me. :good
     
  3. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Robinson: in obvious distress, Duran: apparently not. Therein lies the difference. Pepping It couldn't see the action properly from the Peanut Gallery so we can't take his word for it, sorry squire. :good
     
  4. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis didn't know the score with McCall whereas Leonard counted on Duran's condition to get him thru where he couldn't suceed the first time because Duran was too much fighter for him. it's that latin blood he couldn't handle.

    it's well know he has a flair for this kind of approach. So if you really think it thru, in neither case could i give either man credit other than getting in the ring with their conquerors but Lewis had much more integrity because he didn't know something was wrong with Mccall.
     
  5. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    McCall shouldn't have even been in the ring. That he was allowed to fight fresh out of rehab is a travesty. Beating up a mental cripple is hardly something to crow about.
     
  6. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    In hindsight he probably shouldn't have. However, Lewis still had to beat what was in front of him and not get caught walking onto a bomb as he did in the first fight. Had McCall caught him again in the 2nd or 3rd round and stopped him would we be saying that McCall never should have been in the ring? I doubt it.
     
  7. Cojimar 1945

    Cojimar 1945 Member Full Member

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    McCall did not quit in other fights he was losing. Even if he was behind it seems uncharacteristic of him to have a mental breakdown. Why didn't these occur in other fights where he was losing?
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Leonard made Duran quit,he was physching him out ,he couldnt take the humiliation,plus he wasnt in the shape he had been in Quebec,McCall had a breakdown in the ring ,and known drug problems not Lewis,s fault butneither was it to his credit really ,a different scenario to the Duran surrender.
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Ha ha, mental distress maybe. Tell me the moment(s) he looks in huge physical pain please and I'll review 'em.
     
  10. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I give Lewis about 70% credit, and Leonard 90%. Its obvious McCall was really screwed up before the fight. But Duran, I'm not so sure about. Regardless of what version of Duran you face, it is extremely hard to make him quit.
     
  11. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    :dealThis!
     
  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Leonard looked great vs Duran & Duran was a much harder nut to crack than the already cracked McCall... I give SRL much more credit than Lewis.
     
  13. Hands of Iron

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  14. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, and plenty of it.
     
  15. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not sure how Lewis caused McCall's breakdown. I also think the stoppage in their first fight was a little premature.

    On the other hand Leonard after losing a close fight with Duran. Came up with a better game plan the second time around.