Do you guys respect mid level guys?

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  1. Vincent Gottschalk

    Vincent Gottschalk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seems off the Pavlik vs Lockett fight you don't and in less Pavlik is fighting a handful elite fighters or fellow champs you could care less if is fighting a med level guy like Lockett.:-( I don't get it boxing is made up 90% of med level med level fighters and club fighters and some times they give better fights then the elite's:nono
    This is how I rate the 160 pounders
    Champ Kelly Pavlik
    Elite's contenders
    # 1 Arthur Abraham
    # 2 Winky Wright
    Top contenders
    # 3 Felix Sturm
    # 4 Anthony Mundine
    Med level guys
    # 5 John Duddy
    # 6 Giovanni Lorenzo
    # 7 David Lopez
    # 8 Sergio Mora
    # 9 Gary Lockett
    # 10 Randy Griffin
    # 11 Marco Antonio Rubio
    # 12 Raul Marquez
    The truth is I think some of med level fighters can make more exciting fights then elite guys can with Pavlik. Sturn and Winky vs Pavlik are not going have kind of fire works Duddy or Rubio will have with Pavlik:fire
     
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  2. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    because ***** like Amsterdam just cheer for the elite guy and say that other fighter are garbage..but Amsterdam know that he is the garbage in real life
     
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  3. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    I honestly have a load of respect for Duddy.

    SOME of the other guys you listed as Med. Level, I honestly haven't had a chance to see.
     
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  4. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Oh, and I think the Winky fight vs Pavlik would be pretty good. One, to see how Pavlik would deal with the Turtle Shell, and two IMO Pavlik would bust his ass, and I wouldn't mind seeing that.
     
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  5. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Everyone should respect mid-level guys. That's what probably 90% of all boxers are.
     
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  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :lol::lol: Amsterdam's a bandwagoner...
     
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  7. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Respect has to start a lot lower than that. Respect for their efforts is not the same thing as respect for their ability though. And Mundine? Lets see if he can fight at MW before moving him up so far. After all, he is fleeing SMW to avoid Kessler.
     
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  8. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    :good He tries to be "mean" alot, but I've spoken with him when he's not upholding his "reputation" on the boards and he really is a likeable character.:yep
     
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  9. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    no I AM a likeable character, Amsterdam just have some personality trouble
     
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  10. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    I respect anyone who steps in that ring. Elite, mid-level, ect.
     
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  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Actually, I think he tries TOO HARD to sound like some expert. You know how some guys will try too hard to get a girl and only end up looking like a fool. Same thing. :D
     
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  12. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    :rofl
     
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  13. hitman6616

    hitman6616 Active Member Full Member

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    some of the most exciteing guys are mid-level.

    Micky Ward, Arturo Gatti, Emanuel Augustus ECT ECT.

    I'm just not terribly farmilliar with alot of the 160 pound fighters to be honest.I'd love to see Pavlik fight anybody in the top 10. amin asaikin would be a nice fight I think....(but Finland is the best country in the world so I'm a little bias.
     
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  14. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Those guys are all contenders/fringe contenders. I don't consider them mid-level fighters. Mid-level guys to me are fighters outside the top 20 who aren't absolute bums. Tough journeymen for example, those guys are mid-level.
     
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  15. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Ams used to be a great poster who argued more with logic than anything else. Now-a-days the guy just likes to talk a lot of crap and he's become too much of a nuthugger to really reason with. He's not a bad guy though. He's not quite the ass that some other jock-riders are around here.
     
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