You know nothing about toughness. Go watch your sissified fighters dance around the ring then. More your speed.
LOL, no. The world knows that JMM didn't get the KO. Roidquez got the KO. And Pacquiao begged him for a 5th fight and was even willing to go to Mexico. JMM knew what time it was with VADA testing.
JMM's victory over Pac is the single greatest victory of its generation. Expecting nothing from the judges, Marquez prepared himself for maximum dynamic delivery and put himself deeper into the jaws of the lion than he'd ever been in order to strike the killing blow. Gambling at the highest scientific level, he rolled the dice, laid it all on the line and made it pay off. Only a great fighter could do that. All else is speculation. And it's not as if JMM's illustrious peers haven't been subject to similar supposition. Quoth Erik Morales, "The Mexican pharmacy was better..."
JMM showing up to the Alvarado fight w/ his chest and back covered in acne all but confirmed that he had doped pretty extensively for III and IV. Tainted victory and history will record it as such.
Despite HBO's best efforts to push the PED narrative via their (rather poor) boxing magazine show, it's widely accepted that Marquez recorded a historic victory over Manny Pacquiao in 2012. People have pointed out acne on Manny, too. All his storied victories, however, will remain untainted, as will all of Juan's. Any other point of view is wilful bias.
There's spots of acne, which most fighters get, and Pacquiao's always eating greasy Asian food on 24/7 while sweating and training. And then there was JMM's acne... galaxies across his chest and back w/ complementary boils. And JMM was also sporting an HGH gut/distended belly: [url]http://www.toprank.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/l_FCELQLYTSSNIEPW.20110816233824.jpg[/url]
At the end of the day, we're talking about acne and the shape of someone's gut (or their head and hands, in Manny's case). It's all circumstantial stuff, nothing concrete. Until any bouts are retroactively ruled NC's (not happening), Juan's wins are as legitimate as the next prizefighter's. The speculation will actually become more and more moot as history rolls on. History is indifferent to accusations which were not proven. Let's be fair and balanced and move on.
LOL, Freddie Roach and HBO were the first to point the finger at Marquez hiring Heredia. Pointing to Marquez miraculously transforming his body, that he had never been chiseled like that. ......but when I look at all his weighin's from years before the hiring of Heredia, Marquez' physique is similar in regards to how cut he looks. I would also add that if Marquez indeed was using PED's, so to was Pacquiao and the proof of it is in Alex Ariza's statements in regards to Marquez and Heredia. While Roach and HBO were pointing fingers, Ariza was complimenting Marquez for using scientific methods for strenghth and conditioning. Freddy Roach at the time wanted to do away with some of Alex Ariza's methods who Roach said was causing Pacquiao to cramp. Ariza was still Pacquiao's strenghth and conditioning coach when Ariza was complimenting Marquez and Heredia for the work they were doing. Why the compliments from Ariza? Can it be that Ariza knew they themselves were roiding Pacquiao to the gills?