Do you prefer boxers who talk no bull/ always respect opponents and act gentlemanly?

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I really like guys like e.g. Povetkin and Chambers and Cotto and Mosley who talk no bull**** whatsoever, are not unnecessarily aggressive outside the ring, don't try to intimidate anyone and never say how they're going to destroy the other guy, etc. but always act respectfully towards their opponents. How about you? Is the hype that comes along with the bull-talk really necessary? Does it help you get into the fight more?


    Do you remember when Cotto brought Mosley a cake for his birthday, at a press conferece? Have you seen that pick of Chambers and Povetkin shaking hands and giving each other a manly hug? This is how things should be in boxing, I think.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Dick Tiger was like that, and he's one of my favourites. Burley, he's my very favourite, and he wouldn't even bad mouth the guys that ducked him, never mind the guys he's fought.

    Now fighters are almost expected to curse each other out so guys like Cotto are refreshing, classy.

    But I have to be honest and anser "no". I like men who are true to themselves and what's within them. Hopkins is genuinely the man he portrays, so is Ricky Hatton. Even though they are different, I respect them equally.

    What I dislike is a fighter pretending to be something he's not for the camera, talking BS and acting all threatening because "That's the done thing". That's the only thing that tires me out.
     
  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Thanks for ruining my thread McGrain, with your pretty perfect little answer! :fire

    :D

    OK, good answer; then, if we all agree guys should be themselves, what attitide should young fighters be brought up/encouraged to bring to press conferences, etc. with them? How should young fighters be encouraged to act, besides "be yourself"?
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    Honestly though, it's whatever is best for the fighter himself. Of course, as a general rule a young fighter should be encouraged to act with what you or I might call class but if that class spills over into passivity pre-fight that can create a problem for a fighter. The psyche can be a delicate thing. If an fighter is easily rattled by a physical confrontation that calls for a different attitude again.

    I'm afraid in this business a fighter has to be encouraged to take upon himself whatever attitude would help him get the job done. Hopkins rattled Wright ahead of their fight. That helped him to win. No question.
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :think

    So you are saying: "I am indifferent...whatever attitude/strategy is best for that fighter himself, to get/keep an edge", right?
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    In tandem with my original answer about honesty, that's probably about right. I've no objection to a fighter shouting and screaming the odds (Ali, Hopkins) if it's natural and reasoned. Of course there is a limit. Ali's raning about Gorrila's ahead of the Frazier match is a ****ing disgrace. But the fighter is bound by common decency only.

    "You're in there, you're risking your health...you're not in there to dance...whatever you can do within the rules to give yourself that edge [is acceptable]."

    A young Mike Tyson to Harry Carpenter.
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :good

    Tyson v. Povetkin press conference would be ... strange...
     
  8. scott is cool

    scott is cool Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't mind either, but I do hate fighters who talk and talk, but clearly can not walk the walk, Floyd Mayweather talks **** all the time, but he can back it up, and after the fight he shows his opponent great respect.
     
  9. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxing is exciting and interesting enough without all the ignorant pre fight behavior. Why diminish an opponent, especially if you're looking for credit for beating a good fighter?
     
  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I can't stand trash talking from guys like:

    Paulie Malignaggi
    Junior Witter
    Carl Froch
    Floyd Mayweather
    Bernard Hopkins
    Gary Woolcombe (only Brits will have heard of him!)
    Roy Jones

    Whilst I like:

    Miguel Cotto
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Shane Mosley
    Juan Diaz

    There are guys in between, such as Calzaghe and Hatton, who do the odd provocative interview, yet couldn't really be considered trash talkers.
     
  11. twenty1

    twenty1 Final Destruction Full Member

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    No....... I like so hype!!!!!
     
  12. jimmy1991

    jimmy1991 Active Member Full Member

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    u need one of each to make a big fight
     
  13. twenty1

    twenty1 Final Destruction Full Member

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    Yes must be able to back it up!!!!!!!!!
     
  14. Ghoulie

    Ghoulie New Member Full Member

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    I prefer people who tell it like it is - warts & all - not everyone appreciates the truth - but ain't life a ***** !

    'It's not fair' - some people say - 'Neither is Black Beautys bum' is my answer to them
     
  15. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like both. All of the disrespectful fighters like Floyd and Mayorga are respectful after the fight anyway.