Do you rate the Ring magazine belt ?

Are you aware of the changes the Ring made to their championship policy last year? The Ring championship should now be completely ignored. The TBRB championship should be acknowledged, because it only crowns a champion when the top two boxers face each other in the ring. Even before the Ring watered down their policy they allowed a champion to be crowned if the first and third ranked fighters faced each other, which doesn't make sense.

 

Less biased and corrupt then most so yes i rate it fairly highly

 

It's definitely a highly respect belt but I wouldn't rate it over the WBC, WBA and IBF. You're only considered a real champion when you hold one of the major belts. Usually the Ring title comes after a fighter wins all three major belts and becomes the undisputed champion and officially #1 in the division. In some cases not all three belts are needed if the main champion was stripped off a belt or two, Hatton vs Tszyu being a good example or Hopkins vs Tarver.

 

The above post is so moronic that I don't know where to begin and can't do anything but atsch

Please posters... read about the Ring championship, why it was created, and even a bit about the history of titles in boxing before you post something here.

See my comments on the "apparently Wladimir is the undisputed champ" thread...

 

Not half as moronic as you are even if I tried, jackass. So your comment there is pretty much your opinion on what you think of belts in the sport. Your comments are YOUR opinion on the matter, someone else having a different opinion as you obviously do yourself doesn't make you Mr. SmartmanWillGetLaid2013 and doesn't make others morons either unless you're on your period.

 

If the second ranked fighter refused to make the fight, for whatever reason, then number three was able to step in; so I could kind of see the logic. Since then, the magazine's system for establishing a champ has become so diluted as to severely impact its credibility...despite the fact that the ratings are still better than any single sanctioning body's, for the most part.

Trans-National is still the go to place for ratings, at the moment.

 

I still rate it above the alphabet belts, although it lost a lot of its shine lately.
The rankings aren't all that anymore, and are often used as a GBP promotional tool like people feared would happen.

But in a sport where corruption is the rule it's the least crappy of the bunch.

 

Have you got a link mate there are a few things I wanted to check that do not add up, nothing on their site.

 

It's tbrb.org. It's even easier to check the sticky at the top of this forum for rankings updates

 

If you meant the Ring, it's ringtv.com.

 

If the original poster or anyone else isn't aware of the recent change to the Ring's championship policy, here's the details, from wikipedia...

"Under the original version of the policy, there were only two ways that a boxer can win The Ring's title: defeat the reigning champion; or win a box-off between the magazine's number-one and number-two rated contenders (or, sometimes, number-one and number-three rated). A vacant Ring championship was filled when the number-one contender in a weight-division battles the number-two contender or the number-three contender (in cases where The Ring determined that the number-two and number-three contenders were close in abilities and records). A fighter could not be stripped of the title unless he lost, decided to move to another weight division, or retired.
In May 2012, citing the number of vacancies in various weight classes as primary motivation, The Ring unveiled a new championship policy. Under the new policy, The Ring title can be awarded when the No. 1 and No. 2 fighters face one another or when the Nos. 1 and 2 contenders choose not to fight one another and either of them fights No. 3, No. 4 or No. 5, the winner may be awarded The Ring belt. In addition, there are now six ways for a fighter to lose his title: lose a fight in his championship weight class; move to another weight class; not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months; not schedule a fight in his championship weight class for 18 months, even if fighting at another weight class; not scheduling a fight with a top 5 contender in any weight class for two years; or retiring."


The Ring changed their policy just to fill vacant championships, but this has allowed them to recognise fighters as champions when they simply have not made a clear enough case to be regarded as the legitimate champion. The fighters that the Ring considers champions but TBRB sensibly does not are Wladimir Klitschko, Yoan Pablo Hernandez, Saul Alvarez, Floyd Mayweather, Danny Garcia, and Mikey Garcia. Any fan who follows the sport knows Danny Garcia should not be considered the true champion unless he beats Lucas Matthysse! The new criteria is such a joke, and because of it the Ring championship should now not be given much more authority than the alphabet titles.

But the problem is that the Ring still has enough prestige that many fans would assume the Ring champion is the legitimate champion. On Friday Night Fights for example they always refer to the Ring champions and rankings. What also doesn't help is that so many media organisations and websites have their own ratings and even champions. But if ESPN, HBO, Showtime, other broadcasters and the major boxing sites recognised and listed just the TBRB champions and rankings it would be much simpler, the idea of a single champion would have real legs to stand on across the boxing world, and the legitimate champions would be widely accepted. This would not mean that TBRB's "opinion" would have disproportionate weight: their championship policy is clear and strict and won't change, and their rankings are decided by a large global panel, unlike even the Ring's, which of course as the Ring is now published by Golden Boy can be perceived to be leaning towards Golden Boy fighters. Championships should be clear and consistent, and the TBRB championship is doing the best to accomplish this.

 

U do understand that Khan-Garcia was the fight to crown the 140 champ, so it did. Just cause Lucas has made it to the #1 contender does not mean garcia isnt champ so your wrong on that point!

All the champs the Ring reconize are legit IMO. the only one I would argue is that Mayweather should be champ since he beat Cotto but Anyhow hes fighting Canelo so that will decide it. otherwise its the most legit rankings we have. how can you trust any sanctioning belt when Khan was ranked #1 or 2 at WW without a fight atschatsch

 

I want to add one more point: it will be difficult for the major boxing sites like fightnews, ***********, and maxboxing to accept impartial champions and ratings... because those sites and other boxing sites, if anyone hasn't noticed, are just PR wings for the big boxing promoters!!! The sites are flooded with ads for promoters, there are more 'media releases' than articles or interviews, and most of the actual articles seem like they're written by writers paid off by promoters. So much of the boxing media are whores to promoters who do whatever they can to sell what the promoters are offering, and they therefore won't be likely to publish legitimate champions and rankings because it will affect their jobs and their position with the boxing powers that be.

 

You can probably guess that the censored site is 'the scene'...