Do you REALLY want CLEAN boxing, or not?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Fat Bob, Sep 29, 2017.


Do you really want clean boxing or not?

  1. Yes I am behind Wilder wanting a cleaner sport

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  2. No I am against Wilder's position and want drugs to be part of boxing

    22.9%
  1. Fat Bob

    Fat Bob Member banned Full Member

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    What boxing fans really need to make up there mind is, do you want clean boxing, or don't you, and you have to be honest about it.

    I like many others have been very aware that there is a lot of drug use in sport especially heavyweight boxing. Now that drug testing is a lot more accurate, we can't just pretend the top guys are clean like we used to, we are living up to the reality of how vast drug abuse is in the sport.

    A lot of people don't seem to care right now because Ortiz and Povetkin are not the most popular heavyweights, but what about if Joshua, or Parker gets busted next.

    If you want clean boxing you should be right behind Wilder, and there is no excuses not to be.
    If you don't care about drugs and just want to see good fights, then be honest about it and stick up for what you believe.
     
  2. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes. I want America to clean their own house first. No more hypocrisy!
     
  3. Fat Bob

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  4. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Yeah i want Boxing and all sports to be clean. But if they just binned it all off and you could swallow what ever you liked i wouldnt stop watching.
     
  5. Fat Bob

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    You can't have it both ways though. Fans need to make a serious decision on what kind of heavyweight scene we really want.
     
  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In short no cause I ain't wearing it that someone like Wilder is clean either,all sports are riddled with it and as an example one of Usain Bolts last races in London where he got beat the times were well down on what they normally do as the drug testing was so stringent and it showed.
    What really annoys me though is not the PEDs but the clear corruption surrounding the testing before fights and how some are signed up for clean boxing program and others not,some are seen to be regular tested whilst the other opponent,usually the A side seems to get a pass when it's so clear by just looking at their body that they're in it up to the gills.

    Re Wilder I just don't know what to say anymore but I will say that loads on here predicted this would happen and that in the end the fight with the Buffet King would go ahead and I just find it incredible how Ortiz fights in Europe under Matchroom and doesn't test positive for anything but now in his biggest fight of his life he ges and blows it?
    One last thing,how strange is it that at the press conference Wilder kept on saying "stay clean" just like he did to Povetkin,said this before re Wilder that no other boxer has the drama around making fights like he does,just too much drama and BS in my opinion,only time I'll ever be able to trust that a Wilder fight will actually go ahead is if it's against one of Hearnes guys.
     
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  7. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Idiots on that fake news, everything is a conspiracy **** but have no facts whatsoever. Truth of the matter is these folks only care about a clean support to serve their purposes. This is their mantra: Boxers that they hate are winning, boxing is a corrupt sport where everybody is dirty, **** boxing. OTOH Boxers that they love, they want them to win by any means necessary, wanting their fighters to use every advantage because "everybody does it". They would cheer their favorite and PED cheat if they killed somebody they don't like in the ring. Boxing fans are full of **** but it's mostly coming from one side of the fanboy ranks.

    I want a clean sport where cheating is extremely difficult and expensive enough to be a deterrent.
     
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  8. JL Fighter

    JL Fighter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Say no to drugs!
     
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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    would love to see 100 % clean boxing but hpw are we going to achieve it ?? Boxing is corrupt from the State Commissions on down There is NO ONE to stop it. $$$$$$$$$ is the basis of the corruption. To be honest it breaks my heart to see the greatest sport in the world sink so low
     
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  10. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I predicted this would happen because Ortiz is a known cheat who has been popped before.

    If a criminal gets out of prison and I predict that he'll probably break the law again and get arrested and it happens, does that make it suspicious?

    Does me and others looking at a guy's track record somehow make this a conspiracy? How did they convince Ortiz to not only take banned substances, but also ADMIT that he took them? Is he in on it?

    Tin foil.
     
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  11. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well I want these 'Anti PED' jerkoffs to quit targeting certain fighters while protecting others.
     
  12. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    People say they want clean boxing, but don't realize what will be sacrificed for it. And they're all for it as long as it benefits what they want. The double standards are exposed: they want Wilder to risk his health facing a drug cheat or potential cheat.
     
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  13. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair play re Ortiz
     
  14. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Does wilder have VADA in his pocket?
     
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  15. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Targeting people who have actually failed PED tests vs. those who you or others suspect are on PEDs?

    Hey, I look at AJ and think "guy's probably on 'roids," but I don't consider him as such because he hasn't failed a test (yet). Until he does, I'll be suspicious but never call him out as a cheat.