Do you recognise the WBO

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Beeston Brawler, Dec 21, 2008.


  1. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The IBO and ring does not count as a unification. it was not the IBF that robbed the fighters, it was the judges, even though paulie won both fight clearly.
     
  2. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Thats because none of them would honor there mandatorys. For all intents and purposes that was fair.
     
  3. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    how was it ridiclious. Paul Williams had never had a fight at light middleweight, was WBO champion at Welterweight and therefore not ranked by the IBF at light middle.
     
  4. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    they would not fight there mandatorys.

    i think you got recognize the fact that the WBA was created because the WBC was not enforcing mandatories and allowing world champions to duck people.
     
  5. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    but he was more than worthy to share a ring.

    ricky hatton went straight into a title shot at welter.

    for the simple reason he was a proven world class fighter.

    same goes for paul williams. :roll:
     
  6. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    but in hatton and malignaggi's case they weren't even given the chance to fight and then decide that.

    same happened with hatton before the urango fight.

    n'dou had yet to fight his eliminator at that point. :bart
     
  7. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How so when the WBA is the oldest organisation of them all?

    On the original question, its no better or worse than any of the other three - I recognise the fighter not the belt!
     
  8. ishy

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    Hatton and Malignaggi were told their fight could be for the IBF title if they signed a contract saying they'll fight the winner of Urango v Ngoudgo. Neither did so Paulie was stripped.
     
  9. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bobby Gunn was ranked #15 by the WBO..........and #14 by the WBC.


    So when there's no true champion and the IBF have a terrible champion, and the WBO the best champion in the division, what you do is not only recognise the IBF fighter(no matter how poor) as the World champion(the World champion along with 2 other guys that is), but you also see the WBO champion as a lesser fighter because he obviously isn't a 'World champion', just a contender.

    That sounds more corrupt than the sanctioning bodies themselves.
     
  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I don't think anyone can answer the Bobby Gunn thing, if he was just ranked by the WBO then I am sure we could.

    Big Ears....

    I think what mike464 is saying is that whilst a guy may be WBO champion, he doesn't consider him a world champion. That is not to say that a fighter isn't the best in a division - and can be classed as such.

    After all, Ricky Hatton is recognised by all (not quite but anyways) as the leading 140lb'er. But he isn't a world champ!
     
  11. Chinny

    Chinny Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Since the IBF were hammered for corruption they've gone out of their way to enfore their own (often ridiculous) rules. I think that is as far as it goes really.
     
  12. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Were the IBF hammered for corruption after the Lewis vs Holyfield debacle?
     
  13. Chinny

    Chinny Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, Bob Lee the then-president went down for accepting bribes from numerous promotors (Cedric Cushner I think was the main one) in exchange for fiddling the rankings.

    Do a search on 'Bob Lee', 'IBF' and 'corruption' and you'll find out all about it
     
  14. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    In general, If you look at the fighters who have held a WBO strap in recent years you can't really say it's much worse than any of the other's.

    They definitely have a dodgy relationship with Warren though, remember when they allowed Macca to defend against Ezra Sellers when he was 40 and hadn't fought in something like 3 years? (thankfully the BBBoC stepped in), now i might just be biased due to the fact i really hate Fish Eyed Frank but i don't think the WBO would have allowed that for any of their champions who weren't under SN. I reckon Franks caught the WBO president with a rentboy or something.
     
  15. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. Three is too many titles already. Mind you those are pretty devalued too these days imo.