Do You Respect Light-Hitting Punchers?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Tramell, Mar 28, 2018.


  1. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    well jake lamotta has low ko%! maybe he was bad finisher?
     
  2. Threetime no1

    Threetime no1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great post. Totally agree.
     
  3. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Tried to find a fight, Anthony Peterson vs Jermain White who was 13-0. By the 2nd round Jermaine's arm punches were so sorry, the commentators cracked jokes.

    "You know the longer it takes for Anthony to stop this match..like a man with power vs a boy...the more the crowd is starting to cheer White just for surviving"

    By round 3..White had some fans cheering LOL! I think at the end of the 3rd he told his corner "i'm done".
    I said...I'm done!
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Actually there's nobody in the sport that doesn't, in theory anyway, possess that emancipation card. Anybody in the world under the right circumstances, if they're caught just the right way at just the right moment (shot they don't see coming, from a certain angle, with their mouth open and neck muscles slack, etc) can be put to sleep by a blow from any person in the same neighborhood of mass. Even if the recipient has a legendary iron chin and the scorer of the KO is known to be a massive feather-fist. That is the beauty of the fight game, it contains a bottomless well of mystery & surprises.

    Look at Ottke vs. Mundine, for instance. Now, that isn't to say Mundine has an iron chin - nor do I even think Ottke is among the light hitting p4p boxers of all time - but it was certainly a surprising result, and complicates accurate gauges of Anthony's chin (remember he went rounds with Kessler) and Sven's power (he really did make Calzaghe look like McClellan). There are enough of those logic-defying moments that everybody technically has a puncher's chance, in every single fight. :thumbsup:
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I agree but it's a myth that Ottke couldn't punch. The Phantom wielded savage power in those mitts of his.

    Ulli Wegner


    BEST JAB
    Arthur Abraham: You would not believe it but over time, Arthur Abraham has developed the best jab of boxers I did or still train. Just watch his last fights and you will see that his jab is his primary weapon nowadays.

    BEST DEFENSE
    Sven Ottke: He had the most important asset to be not just a good- but a world-class operator inside the ring — anticipation. He knew where to move to not to get hit. That’s why he got named “Phantom.”

    BEST CHIN
    Ottke: That’s hard to say. I always trained and still train my boxers to hit and not to get hit. To answer this question in another way — I was worried the least when Sven Ottke stepped into the ring.

    FASTEST HANDS
    Ottke:
    Ottke is naturally gifted.

    FASTEST FEET
    Ottke:
    One of the most evasive fighters I have ever seen.

    SMARTEST
    Ottke:
    Ottke was the smartest to effectively implement tactics inside the ring. Abraham is clever analyzing strengths and weaknesses of his opponent inside the ring. The problem is that he is not always focused and doesn’t bother about every foe. That’s when he gets problems. He tends to underestimate opponents.

    STRONGEST
    Marco Huck and Abraham: Both are naturally very strong. Hernandez – one of the biggest hearts – (he has) already stepped into the ring when he was ill or injured, but in the last two years (of his career) I could no longer take the responsibility for him to fight when not being at 100 percent.

    BEST PUNCHER
    Ottke: You might laugh about my next statement but the truth is that Sven Ottke was the hardest puncher. The problem was that due to his style and his ring intelligence, he couldn’t or didn’t want to open up to showcase it. You could see it once, when he had to go for broke versus (Anthony) Mundine. Otherwise, Arthur Abraham has one hell of a punch.

    BEST SKILLS
    Markus Beyer: Markus Beyer was the most skillful when focused on the task ahead. Unfortunately, he let himself be distracted easily by his entourage and surroundings. A close second would be Sven Ottke.

    BEST OVERALL
    Ottke: Easily Sven Ottke — when talking about a total package, he was the prodigy that came closest to it.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :risas3::risas3::risas3:
    Vintage serge
     
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  7. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I disagree! The standard for great fighters has been set long before you even knew what boxing was about! In fact, I believe it takes a feather fisted fighter, with big balls to step into the ring. For me, when a fighter is up against it, and doesn't have the fire power to get the other mans respect, knowing the other man can put him to sleep with one shot and manages to win, is something special. Good fights, or even great fight don't necessarily need to end in a KO. That being said, the level of excitement is heightened when 2 men, that can put each others lights out at any moment step into the ring. I guess I just love the sport.
     
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  8. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Sorry, but the sport has a physical dimension to it. It's not all mental. That's what separates it from chess or painting. You must meet certain requirements to compete. You don't get to run track if you're in a wheelchair. In the hurt the other guy more than he hurts you competition you shouldn't be allowed to enter the competition unarmed. It's either a game or it's a fight. Pretending that it doesn't matter if nobody gets hurt and hey it's just about touching and tagging people for points is silly. Go play pattie cake with your sister if that's what you're into.

    Oh, and shame on you for looking down on Kimbo Slice, toughman contests, and Worldstar Hip Hop. You sound like a snob. My fondness for watching more intelligent administrators of pain like Sugar Ray Robinson does not prevent me from appreciating the more pedestrian efforts of journeymen. You're so enamored of skill that you don't even care if it's effective skill, and that's as blind and misguided as people who only care about aggression whether it's effective or not. Skill without power is useless, the same as power without skill is useless. You need both combined to do anything worthwhile.

    If you don't think that physical traits are just as important as technical skills go watch old men box. It ain't pretty. A fighter without power is only half a fighter.
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    More than your guy who got there on being a power puncher, when we are talking about "world level."
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Rock 'em sock 'em robot fans... stand up with pride! Ya jackasses...
     
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  11. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    Yes because without gloves and not against another high level pro they will disfigure 99.9% of the population. Yes even Paulie Malinaggi