Do you see Haye knocking Wlad down or making him panic?

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  1. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    After watching Wlad for many years now, I have noticed one thing. Everytime he faces a big puncher he always hits the canvas, and against most of those oppenents he also had panic attacks when pressured or hit hard. Fighters like Brewster, Peter, TOS, and Sanders made him look like a deer in the headlights at one point during there fights.

    So my question is, do you see Haye having the same effect on Wlad as the other big hitters Wlad has faced in previous years or do you think Wlad's jab and huge straight right will be enough to keep the dangerous punching Haye away?
     
  2. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I think Wlad is going to be very wary in the early rounds. Although with Haye winding both brothers up a treat, Wlad may come out on the offense from the first bell and try to punish him...playing right into Hayes hands.
     
  3. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree, I was actually thinking the same thing. You remember when Ray Austin talked all that **** on Wlad? Wlad bombed on him early with those left hooks in the 2nd round. Unlike Austin, Haye will throw back. Let me tell you, the last thing Wlad wants to do is get into a brawl with a puncher. With his glass chin, it wouldn't take much to send him into a panic attack or face down in the canvas.
     
  4. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not guaranteed, but given the right circumstance it's possible.

    Wlad seems to worry at times, is a little tepid for action and Stewart's bollockig of him highlights that.
     
  5. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I think Haye has to tighten up his defense when he comes up against either Klitschko, and when I say tighten his defense, I mean improve his reflexes and head movement significantly from what we saw against Ruiz.
    If Wlad comes out and goes straight for Haye early, and doesn't land anything significant...he could be in a world of trouble. All it would take was for Haye to counter Wlad's jab and catch him with one of those explosive right hands.
    Although it's alrite me saying this, Haye needs to show he can do it.
     
  6. Pusnuts

    Pusnuts Active Member Full Member

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    Both guys can easily knock each out but Wlad to me has much the better tools for the job
     
  7. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well if anyone could drop or make Wlad panic, it's Haye. He has all the right tools to do it, he just needs to believe in himself and be ready for war. The last man to make Wlad hit the deck and panic was Peter. I feel Haye has more talent than Peter, but lacks the iron chin needed to get on the inside of Wlad abd really tear him up. Wlad has no arsenal on the inside, his uppercut is nonexistant. If Haye is willing to rough Wlad up in clinch, he got a real chance of taking Wlad out of his fight.
     
  8. mapko

    mapko Member Full Member

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    Both Haye fans and Klitschko fans alike are really eager to get answers to these questions. Will this fight happen this year? Shame on everyone involved if it does not.
     
  9. TFFP

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    Yes, its possible. That's Haye's biggest chance of winning the fight. He has to do something to get Wlad worried. Hit him hard early, talk mad trash before the fight, whatever it takes to get into Wlad's psyche.

    If Wlad is confident its a very difficult fight because we're talking a big, skilled puncher against a smaller, skilled puncher and then there is the massive problem of getting around the jab. But if Wlad is not throwing with conviction that is when Haye has his chance.
     
  10. Pusnuts

    Pusnuts Active Member Full Member

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    I agree his best chance is to try and get in his head and revert him to bambilegs but I dont think its gonna happen. Hayes going to get knocked out bout round 8
     
  11. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And you believe that Haye can take Wlad's punch? Really? Haye has deliberately choosed the most high-profile non-punching heavies he possibly could. Honestly, you couldn't have choosen three fighters who had less of a punch and were still generally respected for what they had done in th PAST than Barrett, Valuev and Ruiz.
     
  12. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Barret was Haye's first fight back at Heavyweight, he gets slack for that. Valuev was the WBA champion and a tall order for anyone (No pun intended). Ruiz was a mandatory, also can't blame Haye for that. Look at Povetkin's rise to the top. Bryd, Donald, Estrada, Chambers. There is no comparison. At least Haye's 3 oppenents had a KO ratio over 50%, can't say the same for Povetkin's.
     
  13. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Wlad's so called 'panic attacks' occured too long ago.

    But considering Haye's speed and power, I wouldn't rule out a possible knockdown.

    Not that I give this scenario much of a chance, though.
     
  14. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sorry. You seem to simply lack critical thinking skills. There's no comparison between beating a young Eddie Chambers and Chris Byrd and defeating Valuev and Ruiz? Are you serious? Ruiz was 38 and had a record of 4-3 over the past 5 years. Valuev was clearly on the slide and was ranked number 7 by Ring magazine as a title holder...that's how much the professionals thought about him. No of the fighter that either man faced were puncher at the time that they faced them. Understand. Valuev hadn't had a knock out in over 4 years when Haye met hime. Ruiz, as I mentioned was completely washed up. Barret...please.
     
  15. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl Wlad's chin is one of the worst I seen for a number 1 heavyweight since Patterson back in the late 50's, early 60's. He at least had the excuse that he never was a true heavyweight and had the frame of most light heavyweights today. Wlad has been knocked down 3 times more than Haye, as well as knocked out 3 times more than Haye. Haye gassed against Thompson, who was a much better oppenent than Puritty. Who Wlad gassed out against early in his career.

    Say what you want about Haye, but Wlad is known for having panic attacks and being floored when faced against big punchers. Haye is, and hopefully will test Wlad's weak chin and show the world how bad it is.