Do you see Haye knocking Wlad down or making him panic?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Punisher33, Apr 6, 2010.


  1. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok, I think there is. Bryd was washed up by the time Povetkin got ahold of him, no different then Ruiz. I would say there pretty damn equal. Valuev was the WBA champ of the world and you want fault Haye for taking that fight? I dont get what your trying to prove, but Haye is taking all the right fights and taking care of business.
     
  2. skier47

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    Wlad will use his lateral movement and power left jab to keep the dangerous powerpuncher Haye off of him for the first few rounds. Haye has the tendancy to trip over his own two feet, especially when he gets excited giving Wlad some great counterpunching opportunities. If Wlad lands clean with a left hook or especially his vaunted right hand well then it's over for the Hayemaker. Wlad is so much stronger, has unlke Haye two-fisted power and has a greater height and reach advantage. He also has such a massive advantage in terms of heavyweight fight experience over Haye that I find it laughable that anyone, especially a guy like Punisher who has a boxing pedigree of his own would believe Haye has any sort of chance against the athletic giant Wlad Klitschko.
     
  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    This "making Wlad have a panic attack" nonsense is really getting out of control. You keep talking about the Peter fight as an example of Wlad "in panic"... when in reality it was an example of Wlad keeping his cool and dominating a fight in which he was rabbit punched to the brain stem... had two bogus knockdowns ruled against him... was hit again in the back of the head which lead to a 3rd knockdown.... yet still kept his composure... weathered the storm... and went right back to completely dominating Peter for the rest of the fight without even getting tired throughout the entire 12 rounds. How the hell is that an example of panic?

    There is one time that I think Wlad went into panic mode... and that was against Sanders. Wlad admitted that up to that point, he had never been hurt like that. He simply had no idea what to do, because he had never been in that situation before, and never dealt with, or learned what to do if that situation arose during a fight. The TOS fight? LMAO... Wlad dominates every second of every round outside of one time overextending.... being knocked off balance and tapping his knee down for a half second, then getting right back up to absolutely dominate TOS for the rest of the round. That is a deer in headlights? Take of the hater glasses jackass... your bull**** posts are getting old. Wlad kicked your idol Sam Peter's ass... get the **** over it. BTW... Wlad just knocked another fighter out cold that also boxed Sammy's ears off. I am sure that made you hate him even worse. That doesn't mean that you have to make yourself look like you have gone full ****** by constantly trying to create a false reality. Every time that Wlad faces a big puncher he hits the canvas? Really? You seriously must have the least boxing knowledge of every poster on this site.
     
  4. bkamins

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    Again, critical think skills. Compare and contrast. Wlad has only been knock down by heavy puncher. Brewster, Sanders and Peter. And since Haye has never faced a heavy puncher at heavyweight we have absolutely no idea what he can take.
     
  5. Punisher33

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    I'm glad you joined the thread skier. I went on record on a few threads already saying that I'm predicting a 6th round KO for Wlad. Though with David's handspeed and power, as well as his athleticism. I believe he may just give Wlad a fight early in this contest, and make him fight like Peter did back in early 05. While he doesn't have Peter's iron chin, he does have more skills and the speed to possibly get to Wlad.

    I can't wait for this fight, and have a feeling it will be highly exciting for us boxing fans.:good
     
  6. bkamins

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    I'm not faulting him for taking the fight...I'm faulting you for your ridiculous comparisons. What I know for a fact is that Chambers was higher rated than Valuev by Ring magazine and fight news. Therefore, depite the WBA belt, Povetkin's victory over Chambers was more impressive than Haye's win over Valuev. And to you, son, what I'm trying to prove is that you don't know what you're talking about. Not to mention the fact that you started a ridiculously tendentious thread (look it up) that proved you cannot think objectively.
     
  7. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Widdow we all know you love Wlad, and thats fine. Though facts are facts. Peter gave Wlad all he could handle, and only losing by 3 points on all 3 of the judges scorecards. Wlad clinched, turned his back to Peter, and looked deathly afraid of Peter's power. Which made him clinch 97 times in total. At one point jumping in the air to clinch Peter. If you dont have the time to watch the fight again, I suggest you watch the youtube video titled "Octapussy", which shows how excessive Wlad was with his clinching that night.

    Wlad has been down 11 times, and knocked out 3 times against journeymen at the time. I do my research and believe Wlad still has a weak chin that Haye can hopefully expose like other big punchers in the past have.
     
  8. lefthook89

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  9. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    :lol: who's got the glass chin?

    here's haye nearly getting put into a coma by a former super middlewieght journyman, Lolena Mock. All Wlad has to do is clip him and he'll be in another universe :yep

    start it at 5:40....lol at the woman's scream at 5:51 :rofl

    http://www.viddler.com/explore/venu44/videos/15/



    Wlad's chin makes Haye's jealous.
     
  10. Punisher33

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    You were trying to prove Haye fought nothing but feather fisted fighters, yet Povetkin has fought nothing but feather fisted fighters at the top ranks. The fighters that Haye fought have a much higher KO ratio than the guys Povetkin fought. Estrada has under 20% for christ sakes. Povetkin beat a fat Eddie Chambers, thats not anything to brag about. Povetkin has done everything he could to get out of fighting Wlad, he knows Wlad would kill him in under 6 rounds.
     
  11. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lol, haye hasnt kissed the canvas as much as wlad nor has he ever been knocked out, so what the hell are you talking about?
     
  12. ko_bros

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    You're making it like Haye has a iron chin, when in fact both of them have a suspect chin. So it would mean that both of them would not want to brawl.
     
  13. Punisher33

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    Thats Haye's best chance of winning this fight though. Do you really think Haye could outbox Wlad? I don't. So his best chance is to go in there and try to take Wlad out of his game plan and make him feel uncomfortable. A big punch, handspped, and pressure is what makes Wlad uneasy. So if Haye he can get him into a fight, not a boxing match. I feel his chances of winning increase.
     
  14. ko_bros

    ko_bros Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :patsch This is so dumb. There is no excuse for having a bad chin, also its not Wlad's fault that he has one. What can he do about it to make it better? Ask God to make it stronger or exchange it with Vitaliy?:patsch
     
  15. Punisher33

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    Well should be a little easier to take a punch when your 6'6 and a half 245 than say under 6 foot and 190 pounds. Wlad is the biggest man in the ring in 95% of his fights, yet has been floored more times than most of the past champs that came before him.