Do You See Larry Holmes Struggling, With Fury?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Nov 7, 2021.

  1. BrainyBoxer

    BrainyBoxer Active Member Full Member

    Mar 18, 2016
    Yes but I do think he would get the win.
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  2. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Mar 26, 2011
    I think he would be a problem for anyone.
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    Jan 8, 2017
    Think he would. Even against some of the best names in history.
    Not saying he'd beat such as Ali, Louis, Frazier etc, but hes gonna make them work.
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  4. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jan 20, 2015
    Fury poses a unique mix of physical attributes and skills that would cause anyone to struggle, even those who could beat him.
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  5. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

    Oct 18, 2009
    Anyone and everyone will always struggle with Fury.

    If he wants to be awkward and long he can. If he wants to go Kronk style he can.
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    Fury would be a handful for any heavy in history. I can't see him beating Holmes but The Easton Assassin would be taken to the wire.
  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 30, 2014
    I chose not to engage with you because
    1. you're a dishonest POS with breathtaking double standards, using a 36 year old Holmes' struggles as bulletproof evidence, he stands no chance against Fury, but scream bloody murder when someone brings up a past it Cunningham who dropped a 24 year old Fury

    2. We've already had this discussion before and I mopped the floor with you.
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  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 30, 2014
    But according to Devon, a 24 year old Fury's struggles with the 37 year Cunningham don't count, while a 36 year old Holmes' performance against Williams is fair game.
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  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    Jan 8, 2017
    Think ur right, Stevie.
    Size, skilled and heart to get up from the hardest shots. Larry wins using his brilliant jab but he's hurt and shaken.
    I see Larry getting a split decision.
  10. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Did Cunningham's management make a huge error, by taking the Fury fight?

    He might have had considerable success against other men in the division.
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  11. Devon

    Devon Well-Known Member Full Member

    Dec 31, 2018
    Yeah ok, just casually add a year onto Holmes and Cunningham. 36 isn't really that old for a heavyweight, we even seen at bantamweight, Donaire looked really good and sharp against Inoue and Donaire had been in wars prior to that and we have seen similar things like that, Duran at 37 against Barkley, you're making out like 36 is grandpa age, Holmes was 35 in the Carl Williams fight, Lennox Lewis was 36 in the Rahman 2 fight to put it into perspective, I could understand if Carl Williams put it on Holmes and Holmes struggled, I'd say fair enough maybe he forced the fight on the older man and he struggled, but no, it was the perfect pace for Holmes, it was a jabbing match, you don't lose skill when you get older, you should be just as good at 35 at swapping jabs and fighting a slow paced fight from the outside as you are at 28 or 32, in fact you may be more experienced then so you may be better at that, there is no reason Holmes would be not as good at a jabbing match at 35 as he would be at 30
  12. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    If we're talking about a top version of Fury, then yes, he'd be a handful for any heavyweight in history. Not saying he necessarily beats Holmes but it would be a tough fight for Larry, his technical skills notwithstanding. Fury is such a spoiler and has such long reach that I think it would not be a picnic even for Holmes' vaunted jab. If we're talking about an average version of Fury then Holmes would likely win. TF fluctuates a lot in the versions he shows up in.
  13. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member Full Member

    Nov 10, 2012
    Larry cannot rise to the occasion. He always fought down to his opponents level. Fury is to smart and too good of a spoiler to lose this.

    Fury has major physical advantages as well.

    Fury wins a UD.
  14. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Aug 22, 2004

    Oh dear God......
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  15. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 27, 2005
    Holmes was most certainly not as good swapping jabs at 35 as he was when he was 20. Have a look at him just after this against Spinks. He looked TERRIBLE. So slow, poor timing, less snap etc etc etc

    Different fighters, weights and era's age vastly differently. We could use guys like Moore and Hopkins as examples and say everyone should still be awesome at 40 or whatever. Look at a guy like Benitez.