Do You Still Feel Mikey Is Elite???

Will people talk about him in 10/20/30 year's? That to me is what elite means, but it can mean other things to other people.
Elites don't devide opinions though if we're being honest, the fact that arguments on either side can be justified means it's a no from me.

 

This seems reasonable enough

 

To be considered reasonable on here is a complement of the highest order lol it truly is cheers mate.
Look at it this way resumes are more and more being used to guage a fighter.
I could be wrong but it used to be more the performance in the fights against the best other fighters of that generation/era that would be used to make the arrangements for or against.
The relevance of the resume is that the best don't fight the best often enough, I have stated the reasons why I think this is happening in don't know if iam right.
And example of this might be the death of the trilogy? Let me know what you think buddy

 

Broner was once also on pound for pound lists and considered elite, even though he had fought no one, won close fights against subpar opposition, and had some meaningless paper belts so he could claim he was a multi weight champion.
I also pointed out that he was a fraud and not elite, just like I have with Mikey. Just because dummies don’t know boxing, look at zeros and how many weight divisions you’ve drained yourself down doesn’t mean that the consensus is accurate. My experience is that I’m accurate more often than the consensus so logically I have to go with that. I don’t care what he is considered, and personally I think it’s pathetic when someone has to appeal to the consensus. Try to think a bit and take care now.

 

No no, absolutely not. Don’t misunderstand me.

I KNOW that for a fact.

 

More money and less pressure. Mikey also knows that Lomachenko isn’t the easier fight.

 

Only some one who knows nothing about the sport would think loma is a harder fight for mikey than spence is. How is that possible when loma cant hurt mikey and mikey can hurt loma and mikey is bigger than loma. Loma-mikey is a pick em fight Spence-mikey wasnt close. The sports books would back up my claim as well with the odds if this fight ever takes place.

 

You again?
Personally, I don’t really remember Broner being considered elite by the general consensus. Very athletic and potentially elite? Yes. But there were always those who saw through the hype and knew that his out of the ring doings were a warning sign. Only the jenkem huffing mvc types believed that Broner was destined for greatness. Mikey, on the other hand, has a solid foundation not based on pure athleticism, years spent sparring in the SoCal mexican gym scene and isn’t known for being a hood rat. See the difference?
But going back to my original post that you so twisted, I said we’d have to see how he does against his next two B+ opponents before we can give a reasonable assessment.

 

Cool, and I’d be happy to take the money and walk away laughing. Mikey knew that Lomachenko was the tougher fight, with more to lose, less to gain. It’s hilarious that people couldn’t/can’t see that. If Mikey finally finds his balls to fight Lomachenko we will see Lomachenko hurt Mikey. Spence is good, Loma is great. Loma has better defense and creative attack, it will be a compete schooling and I’ll be shocked if Mikey goes the distance. It’s one thing fighting to survive against a predictable fighter that you’re expected to lose against, it’s another thing being schooled and hurt by a smaller guy. Mikey will quit, I guarantee it and I’ll take a lifetime bet if Mikey finds his balls.

 

What a fighter does outside of the ring is irrelevant to the skills and athleticism displayed in the ring. So that difference isn’t meaningful at all, and it’s strange that someone would think that’s a determining factor in saying a fighter is elite or not. Mike Tyson was elite.
I can make an assessment now based on his history of average performances against average fighters, based on his basic game and lack of athleticism, based on him losing every second against Spence.

 

Another ****ing idiot who knows nothing about boxing. How is loma a harder fight than spence when loma will be dwarfed in the ring and cant hurt mikey but mikey can put loma on his ass. If you think loma is capable of dishing out a beating to mikey like spence gave him you're clearly high or a troll. A elite bigger man facing a elite smaller man is never a harder fight than going up in weight facing a bigger elite devastating body puncher like Spence. Im convinced that people like you will say anything just to be heard and dont even believe half the stuff you post. Not only did spence put a beating on mikey he outboxed him and shut him out. No way in hell will loma do that to mikey, that fight is too close to call.

 

What you fail to realize is loma can be hurt not only that he can be dropped and mikey can crack especially at the lower weights. Loma would fight a very cautious fight because he respects mikeys power that would change up things drastically. Could he win yes but it wont be anything like what spence did to mikey that's for damn sure.

Lastly Spence is anything but predictable i and the majority on this forum expected him to pressure mikey and go to his body from the opening bell but he didn't he actually outboxed mikey then started to break hin down. Spence is a much more complete boxer than people give him credit for.

 

You assume Mikey can hurt Loma. I don’t buy that, he won’t be able to lay a glove on him for a start. If a smaller man can’t lay a glove on a bigger and basic guy like Spence then what makes you think he could touch the Matrix?
I’m not sure if Spence is elite yet, and I know for sure that Mikey isn’t anywhere near elite. You need to settle down with that talk. As you say Spence outboxed him, so you’re downplaying the size factor in the same post you’re claiming size is such a big factor.
I’ve already explained why Loma will put a worse beating on Garcia. He’s a faster, better and more creative offensive fighter than Spence. Mikey is a poor athlete, he’s slow and plodding in every division. You think the fight is close to call, I always said that Pedraza was the tougher fight and I stand by that, and we will see that if Mikey ever finds his balls long enough to put the enchiladas down and get back to 135.

 

Spence is good, but it’s more that Mikey is far worse than most people think he is. Look at his resume and performances objectively. He’s C grade and hype, the end.
No it won’t be like the Spence fight, it will be far worse for Mikey.

 

Yes he is and yes he also got outbox but let's not ignore the fact that this is his first fight at 147. If anything this just proves he doesn't belong not because he doesn't have the skill but because he was just not made for 147