Do you suddenly lose it?

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  1. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    This isn't strictly a boxing training question, more a general training and playing sports question.

    I'm 28 and I feel that my legs have went. I can't really describe it any better than simply saying 'it's not there anymore'. It's just like I've stiffened up, and I feel like I'm moving with lead shoes on. I feel so slow to react to things, and I feel I've no longer got a spring in my step.

    I came back after a 4-5mth absense from playing sport after a knee cartilage injury, and now 3-4mth later what I described above hasn't improved. I've had a chequered injury history, with a few knee and ankle problems over the last 10yrs or so. I've felt a bit of a slow down these last 2yrs, but I've had a few injury problems so expected it. The deterioration this last 6mths is concerning.

    Is there any advice for trying to recover from this? I'm only 28, I had kind of hoped to stay playing sport until at least my mid 30's. I honestly feel like I've went from being 27-28, to being 47-48 in the space of a few months.
     
  2. Onepunch

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    I can't see any reason why you would 'lose it' over such a short time frame. It is probably a mixture of your absence from sport and a psychological problem.

    Keep playing sport, it might improve.
     
  3. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    Maybe I'm misleading saying sudden. I've felt a decline for a few years, but it's accelerated this last 6mths or so.

    I tore my adductor muscle nearly 4yrs ago, and that kept me out light training for about 10mths, and it was over a year before I was back playing. Work commitments got heavily in the way of proper and regular treatment for this injury. I'd say since that point it's been a slow decline. Then after this cartilage injury, a rapid decline.

    The time in between, I've had ankle problems and then the knee cartilage problem. So really the last 4yrs, I've only maybe been fit for 2 of them. It doesn't shock me that I've went backwards, just how much I have.

    The psychological aspect interests me though. With a chequered history record in recent years perhaps I am telling myself subconciously I can't do it anymore. I don't feel I am, but the mind works in weird ways. I am getting pretty frustrated at the fact I can't do things I used to could do. I can't run as fast or kick a ball as far, etc, etc.
     
  4. Onepunch

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    I have bad days often, probably from overtraining. I'm certain that on days when my head just isn't in the game I perform significantly worse.

    As exercise is associated with endorphin release, I guess just getting back into it is the best treatment for the mental side. I know that even when I'm having one of those days - getting my ass kicked in sparring cheers me up and makes me sharp again.
     
  5. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How much stretching do you do, or did.
     
  6. brown bomber

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    Carry on scrap! Interested in this one!
     
  7. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    Depends on what sport I'm playing.

    However as a rule, at least 5 mins dedicated to stretches before every training session/game. After having the pain and inconvenience of a torn muscle, I never would not do it.
     
  8. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dont know you , so cant tell but reading what you say. You need something ive got at home, but thats out of the question seeing where you live. Can i ask, do you get Headaches.
     
  9. lefty

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    Please elaborate Scrap, stretching and flexibility is a part of training I find difficult to stay motivated for. Tell me the damage I'm doing :D
     
  10. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    Hmm, probably slightly more than average, but I wouldn't say excessively.

    What are you thinking?
     
  11. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think as do a lot of learned people I know, actually not a lot of learned people come to think of it :D. Are the eyes, in fact they are responsable for 95 % of injuries, plus they slow us down. Both eyes are different plus they dont go direct to the brain, one eye the dominant one directs movement as such, the other gauges depth, there lies the problem. dominant side is the doing while the other side stabalises the movement. Everybody has a different walking gait, which causes an imbalance in the Hips, which goes up the spinal cord and causes all sorts of problems because of the oral cavity try to stablelise itself. Now with long term inbalancing injury you have a problem as you can imagine. What generates energy for movement is contraction, now how to get more contraction of muscle is to expand by stretching the thing for elasticty and bigger expansion it gives more contraction. Which helps to better support the bones and cartlidge from injury. If you buy an expensive car you maintain it. Our body the most expensive thing we will ever own we dont, hope this Helps.
     
  12. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    One of my friends is a sports therapist and he actually says something similar, but from a different root cause, as to what maybe wrong with me.

    When I tore the adductor, I never had proper treatment, he reckons the muscle has contracted, and is causing me to be out of balance.

    ie, I stand slightly squint, in turn my backs slightly squint, and my weights out of balance.
     
  13. scrap

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    Thats why i asked if you were getting headaches. Everything will try to compensate, to keep the head where it should be, causing the body tighten in the upper back to keep the oral cavity stable. Any injury like that causes the body shock, thats why proper rehab is important. Shame youre not near got the best rehab machine for that, there is on the planet.
     
  14. pocketrocket76

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    This is one of those threads where as I read it the rolling penny finally drops.

    Ankle, groin and hamstring injuries and then breaking my leg a few years ago mean I too feel I no longer have “it”. For the past year and a half I seemed to be permanently pulling muscles in the front of my thigh along with hamstring and calf pulls despite what I perceived to be suitable recovery periods and easing myself back in to sport. This was topped off recently with a popping sound from my knee and I find out tomorrow if an MRI scan reveals damage to my ACL with the consensus being this is quite likely.

    Scrap, you seem to have a very well thought through and experienced outlook on this so I hope you don’t mind me asking a question or two. Is it possible that my injuries have caught up with me through a mixture of not seeking professional help with the rehab from these injuries and this causing a knock on effect? Also, I recently found out that long standing sleeping problems have put my jaw out of line.

    The above is all very random and I must sound like I’m falling to bits but I’ve competed all my life and whilst I understand that elements of performance deteriorates with age I hate not being able to perform to my best regardless.

    Sorry for rambling but this post hit a nerve and any comments would be appreciated.
     
  15. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where do you live Rocket